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Postby allanm » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:27 pm

l don't see it as a blessing as he fathered the children, who now the mother has 24/7 also we don't know why he was kicked out, for instance is he the inocent party here? we only have his side of story and there is always two sides.
If you father children then be big enough to stand by them.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:45 pm

allanm wrote:l don't see it as a blessing as he fathered the children, who now the mother has 24/7 also we don't know why he was kicked out, for instance is he the inocent party here? we only have his side of story and there is always two sides.
If you father children then be big enough to stand by them.
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Maybe I did not make myself clear on this. The worse scenario was, Yes, he has to pay for the roof over his young children and their support. If things are eased, then it will be a small blessing if he has to pay a bit less due to change in law or circumstances.

Innocence or guilty? What centyry do you live in. If you have children you are screwed - in the UK. Guilt or innocence rarely comes into the equation.

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Postby StuartN » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:09 pm

Just for additional info - there was no infidelity or violence - she just decided I drank too much.
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:18 pm

StuartN wrote:Just for additional info - there was no infidelity or violence - she just decided I drank too much.


So wouldn't everything be simpler if you moderated your drinking?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:19 pm

StuartN wrote:Just for additional info - there was no infidelity or violence - she just decided I drank too much.



Whate ever the circumstances, in this case young children are involved and their welfare is paramount.


As to drinking, I will drink half a glass and I think its too much.

Sorry to hear that. Sorry for the kids really.

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Postby devil » Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:46 pm

StuartN wrote:Just for additional info - there was no infidelity or violence - she just decided I drank too much.


Meaning you spent all your spare time in the pub and no time being a husband and father to your kids and all your cash paying for your pints when the elder kid's shoes are too small? Sorry, but if this is the case, I can understand her. Do you really think that infidelity and/or violence are the only things to break up a marriage?

Ask her to post here her side of the story.
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Postby dinos » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:34 pm

denizaksulu wrote:First I am not a lawyer. My partner went through exactly (as far as I see) the same situation. If there are underage children about, who are in the care of the mother, the father (chief earner) has to provide for their upkeep and home.
In this case its too late for a pre-nuptual. If you are a 'legal' person in the UK, I will bow to your opinion/advice. As I said, that was quick advice, I prepared him for the worse scenario, if the law has since changed (or the conditions) then its a blessing for the gentleman involved.

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No...no bowing wanted. :lol: Knowing that you posted a worst-case scenario makes much more sense. The case you stated is definitely reasonable as a worst-case.

My only experience with divorce is a friend who married a moron. Both their lawyers made them stay in their house until they sold it because if one left, the other could claim abandonment. I'm just going on a gut feel here and it seems fair that the mortgage should be split between him and his ex. My comments regarding prenups weren't intended for this case.

Either way, I agree with you - providing for the children is the right thing to do. Even better, he could try and fix the things that led to the present situation and try to work things out before seeking more permanent legal arrangements.

Hope you're well...
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:41 pm

dinos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:First I am not a lawyer. My partner went through exactly (as far as I see) the same situation. If there are underage children about, who are in the care of the mother, the father (chief earner) has to provide for their upkeep and home.
In this case its too late for a pre-nuptual. If you are a 'legal' person in the UK, I will bow to your opinion/advice. As I said, that was quick advice, I prepared him for the worse scenario, if the law has since changed (or the conditions) then its a blessing for the gentleman involved.

Regads


No...no bowing wanted. :lol: Knowing that you posted a worst-case scenario makes much more sense. The case you stated is definitely reasonable as a worst-case.

My only experience with divorce is a friend who married a moron. Both their lawyers made them stay in their house until they sold it because if one left, the other could claim abandonment. I'm just going on a gut feel here and it seems fair that the mortgage should be split between him and his ex. My comments regarding prenups weren't intended for this case.

Either way, I agree with you - providing for the children is the right thing to do. Even better, he could try and fix the things that led to the present situation and try to work things out before seeking more permanent legal arrangements.

Hope you're well...



Just seen your signature, 'beans' and all that. I have just finished off my fasolaki yiachni with lamb, and now I feel fine. :lol: :lol: The sun has come out too.

Back to the drinker, I think the drinking part may b the straw that broke the camels back. The way I feel if a partner has a problem with drinking you seek help, but thats a different story.

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Postby mountainman » Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:56 pm

Sorry to hear about your troubles Stuart.

My best suggestion would be that you become unemployed asap, trying to be the good dad paying the mortgage and meeting the kids at McDonalds every week won't stop your wifes lawyer screwing you for every penny.

SAVE THE PLANET; SHOOT A LAWYER, Estate Agent, Property Developer, Politician :)
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:00 pm

As far as I know you can either sell your share of the house to your wife or sell it together and she will have to buy something cheaper. You will still be liable to pay for your children and so you should. The CSA will not leave you alone so you might as well face up to the realities and take on the responsibility. You will be chasing your own shadow and your sanity if you don't. Lie with the realities my friend. Many do and it is much easier than looking over your shoulder all the time and the regrets and the damage you will do to your children. Be there for them and you will be much better for it. Blaming yourself or your wife wiill not solve anything and can tear you apart. It really is not worth it.
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