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[Piratis]

Everybody else is wrong - your right - come on you Turks, pack your cases and pop off - we all made a mistake - all those stories about the Tc's being victimised were made up.

Hissyfit - is it just me or are these unbelievable?

Talking to yourself again?

The whole world recognizes the Republic of Cyprus and condemns the illegal occupation of Cyprus and the declaration of the pseudo state.

Greek Cypriots have suffered for the last 33+ years plus 307 years they have been under the Turks as slaves (and then under the British). Since the Turks came to our island we have lost many 10s of thousands of people, and 100s of thousands have been ethnically cleansed.

So, we have been victimized for 100s of years, including the most recent 3+ decades.

We had suffered 10s of thousands of casualties

100s of thousands of GCs have been ethnically cleansed.

The Turks were the ones who started the conflict by capturing and enslaving us.


BUT, according to you the TCs are the victims because some 700-800 people died, in a conflict which they were equally responsible and in which the also killed several 100s of GCs?



Whatever Hissyfit/Joff. Just tell us how much cheap land stolen from Greek Cypriots is offered to you, and stop trying to propagandize in here hoping that you will manage to keep the property that you illegally acquired.

[StuartN]

Piratis,
What on earth are you talking about ?

parliament.uk url, those things have nothing to do with the UK parliament

That is the URL of the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Select Committee which is a Committee of the 'lower' chamber of the UK parliament !

www.parliament.uk is the web address of the UK Parliament and www.publications.parliament.uk is the official publications office of Parliament

So who is misleading whom ? I guess you actually meant to say "those things have everything to do with the UK parliament"



- everything/nothing, easy mistake to make, Piratis

Really?

So here is what the UK Parliament says then:

Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974 under the most conspicuous circumstances, following the Dr Kissinger inspired coup which was executed by the then Athens junta (see Christopher Hitchens—"The trial of Henry Kissinger"). The western media often attempts to justify Turkey's invasion by claiming that the coup was organised in order to unite Cyprus with Greece. The fact that Turkey was ready to invade Cyprus immediately after the coup confirms that the whole issue was orchestrated in order to bring about the downfall of president Makarios and to open the way for Turkey to invade, using as a pretext its alleged right to interveue under the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee.

Following Turkeys double invasions on 20 July and 14 August 1974, the following devastating events took place:

— 200,000 Greek Cypriots were forcibly removed from their homes in the occupied area and made refugees.

— 6,000 Greek Cypriots including many civillians lost their lives.

— 1,000 Greek Cypriot women and young girls were raped. Such was the magnitude of the problem that the government of the Republic Cyprus passed a law to legalise abortion.

— Over 1,500 people including civilians are missing. The youngest was three years of age, the eldest in their nineties. They are still unaccounted for, yet Turkey and its puppet regime refuse to provide any information on their fate. Twelve of the missing are young men from Ayios Amvrosios, the youngest was 16 years of age and the eldest 27.

— 502 churches, chapels and monasteries were vandalised, converted to stables and mosques with priceles icons, wall paintings and artefacts sold to the highest bidder around the world. Our own church of Saint Amvrosios has been stripped bare and converted to a mosque. The unique 12th century church of the monastery of Antifonitis, one of only two of its kind in the world, situated on the mountainside just outside the town, was totally destroyed frescoes were removed and illegally exported to Holland.

— The enclaved Greek Cypriots in the Karpass peninsula numbering 20,000 in 1974 after the invasion, are now less than 500, mainly elderly. Following years of torture, intimidation and violation of their human rights and dignity. It is worth informing the Committee that the enclaved children were for 30 years denied secondary education in the occupied area, and were forced to go to the free areas for further education and were then denied entry back in to the occupied areas to rejoin their families. This deliberate policy was successful for the Turks as the dwindling number of the enclaved shows.

from:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 13we39.htm

Get your facts straight cooperline. Everybody could write at publications.parliament.uk. What is written there represents the views of those who write them, and not of the UK parliament.

Go on then.......

Who let out then mate , its Monday today shouldn't you go back inside !!!

It was the big boys - they made me do it

[Nikitas]

For people who have had a grand civil war Hissy and Joff you dont show much wisdom. Did the cavaliers victimize the roundheads or the other way round? In a civil war both sides indulge in vicious acts. Would the way to solve the civil war in Britain be to let France invade and tke 37 per cent of the territory?

[Get Real!]

It was the big boys - they made me do it

Are you not living in the "TRNC" ?

[Joff]

As I said hours (but I must admit it feels like days ago) that as I am English I can admit the things the English have done in the past. What frustrates me to the point of banging my head against the wall is your unability to do the same.

[Joff]

For people who have had a grand civil war Hissy and Joff you dont show much wisdom. Did the cavaliers victimize the roundheads or the other way round? In a civil war both sides indulge in vicious acts. Would the way to solve the civil war in Britain be to let France invade and tke 37 per cent of the territory?

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What are you talking about?

[Get Real!]

As I said hours (but I must admit it feels like days ago) that as I am English I can admit the things the English have done in the past. What frustrates me to the point of banging my head against the wall is your unability to do the same.

Look arsehole, why don't you go to Iraq and tell that to your English mates who are cowardly killing people in a 3rd world country as we speak instead of coming here?

[Piratis]

As I said hours (but I must admit it feels like days ago) that as I am English I can admit the things the English have done in the past. What frustrates me to the point of banging my head against the wall is your unability to do the same.

Joff, we killed about 700-800 TCs. Thats about it. What inability? Didn't I say this several times already.

Your problem is that you don't see the 10s of thousands of GCs that were killed and the 100s of thousands that have been ethnically cleansed and the most recent 3 decades that our land is under occupation and the centuries that we have been oppressed by the Turks, and all you see is just one decade where a few 100s of TCs were killed, even though during the same exact time TCs were killing 100s of GCs.

So why you do that?

To me is obvious why you do it. I just want to see if you can give a logical answer without revealing who you really are.

[Joff]

Well done "get real" or should it be "REAL GIT" if your losing an argument - get personal

[Nikitas]

Joff, I am saying like many Turkish Cypriot contributors to this forum have said that the events of 1963-4 amounte to a civil war, an event common to many countries amongst them England. Civil war are not settled and the differences are not resolved by a third country invading and occupying 37 per cent of the territory.

Looking through European history you will be hard pressed to find a country that hasnot had civl war or civl strife at some point. Turning that problem into an excuse to invade, kill thousands, ethnically cleanse part of the country is not the done thing these days, as many UN resolutions prove. That is what we are talking about.