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[Get Real!]

GR - can you point me to any papers confirming that GC's are aboriginal?

Go through the ENTIRE thread I provided you with and if you've still got a problem post THERE.

[StuartN]

So you're saying that GC's ARE an aboriginal race then....... clears that up.

[phoenix]

So you're saying that GC's ARE an aboriginal race then....... clears that up.

They are NOT "an aboriginal race" .... GCs are THE aboriginal people of Cyprus.

(Aboriginal being the people that inhabited Cyprus from the earliest times and certainly before the arrival of colonists).

[GreekForumer]

GR - can you point me to any papers confirming that GC's are aboriginal?

StuartN, this is a map of the Greek speaking world in 500BC.



Looking at that map, would you describe "The Greeks" as

1. indigenous
2. sea faring traders and colonists and settlers
3. empire building murderers and thieves

What is the fairest description for "the Greeks" ?

Hint : Notice Cyprus, Sicily, Corsica and Sardinia are not completely coloured "Greek" ? What does that tell you ?

[shahmaran]

GR! Posting another debate from the forum does not prove anything but the fact that you are clueless.

And GreekForumer, this tells me nothing but that you were just as bad as any other race, the Greeks did invade, murder, steal and assimilate people just like any others, including the ancient civilizations of Mesopotamia whom you annihilated while stealing their culture and heritage, only to turn around and sell it to everyone else as it were yours, so stop playing this "oh we have always been good and you have always been bad" attitude because it clearly shows that you are talking out of your crap hole!

And for those of you who do not understand what "indigenous" means here :

" in·dig·e·nous (n-dj-ns)
adj.
Originating and living or occurring naturally in an area or environment."

Any doofus who reads this would understand that "Greeks" are not some form of "vegetation" that can evolve in different parts of the planet simultaneously thus making them "naturally occurring" . Yes they have had a very long history and have spread vastly but this does not make them the aboriginal people of the Mediterranean and definitely not the origins of the human race!

So which ever genius that coined this concept into this debate is an utter moron, i think what he/she really meant to say was "they are the natives of..." which is more acceptable given the history and the circumstances of the people and the island, but of course that would not be suitable for the sake of argument, because this would mean that the TC's have just the same rights on the island as they or anyone else does since we are also THE NATIVES OF THIS ISLAND!

If you talk to these idiots they will still claim that Istanbul is theirs just like Baklava and Hellim is, soon they will claim ownership on Sufism and Molehiya as well, hey you want my pants too? I think they used to be Greek at some point

[StuartN]

So you're saying that GC's ARE an aboriginal race then....... clears that up.

They are NOT "an aboriginal race" .... GCs are THE aboriginal people of Cyprus.

(Aboriginal being the people that inhabited Cyprus from the earliest times and certainly before the arrival of colonists).

Surely the culture, language and genes of the aboriginal Cypriots (wherever THEY came from)have been so influenced by invaders etc over the millennia that they could hardly be called 'aboriginal' any more? - (well - perhaps a couple I know could)

[Get Real!]

GR! Posting another debate from the forum does not prove anything but the fact that you are clueless.

I can’t be bothered going over every issue again every time a Tom, Dick, or Harry walks in the forum. I’ve given you the link to the relevant thread so feel free to post there but not here please.

[Get Real!]

Reminder to all that this thread is about...

Kurdish Republic of Eastern Turkey

[shahmaran]

GR! Posting another debate from the forum does not prove anything but the fact that you are clueless.

I can’t be bothered going over every issue again every time a Tom, Dick, or Harry walks in the forum. I’ve given you the link to the relevant thread so feel free to post there but not here please.

What, you claiming ownership on this forum as well?

[denizaksulu]

You're quite right Shah - when referring to a person (or people) as indigenous it implies of aboriginal origin. Are the Kurds aboriginal?

Behave StuartN. Stop confusing the lad. Ofcourse they ( the Kurds) are not 'original Ozzies.

But Shahmaran does have a point when he says that is is a rare occurrence to find purely 'indigenious' peoples. By my reckoning, a large number of Cypriots whether GC or TC do fall into this category. The rest will have additional 'flavour' from Turkey, Greece and to a smaller extent other neighbouring Levantine countries. Now, who is going to 'shoot' me down first? I hope its a GC