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[denizaksulu]

Piratis, GR,
So how exactly would a 'KRET' or Kurdistan in eastern Turkey (a) hasten the resolution of the Cyprus problem and (b) hasten the restoration of Armenian national rights ? Or are your proposals simply to annoy Turkey and to encourage the killings of yet more innocents ?

Please consider the following…

1. The probability that Turkey will ever WILLINGLY cede territory for the creation of a Turkish Kurdish state (KRET) is next to zero.

2. The probability that Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey will ever SIMULTANEOUSLY agree to relinquish their corresponding Kurdish territories towards the creation of Kurdistan is even smaller.

Given the above what safe assumptions can one make?

The safest assumption we make is that you are Number One '----' stirer. Your only intention on this forum is to agitate TCs. Period. I for one never gets agitated.

Apart from that I believe Article One in the Rep. of Turkey Constitution says that Turkey is a whole and is Indivisible. Or was that something to do with the structure of the atom? That was wrong too. Turkey will keep on fighting as it is now. Pity reallly. All these innocent lives. Your support for these PKK terrorists will only prolong the suffering of the people in Eastern Turkey. Whats your new chosen name (for your gream) - KRETinistan?

Erratum/Correction:

Article 4 includes what I described as Turkey being Indivisible.


"The Constitution asserts that Turkey is a secular and democratic republic, deriving its sovereignty from the people. The sovereignty rests with the Turkish Nation, who delegates its exercise to an elected unicameral parliament, the Turkish Grand National Assembly. Moreover, Article 4 declares the immovability the founding principles of the Republic defined in the first three Articles, "laïcité, social equality, equality before law, the Republican form of government, the indivisibility of the Republic and of the Turkish Nation", and bans any proposals for their modification. The preamble also invokes the principles of nationalism, defined as the "material and spiritual well-being of the Republic". Thus, it sets out to found a unitary nation-state based on the principles of secular democracy.

It also establishes a separation of powers between the three main powers of the state. The separation of powers between the legislative and the executive is a loose one, whereas the one between the executive and the legislative with the judiciary is a strict one.

Regards

[Get Real!]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

[observer]

I suppose that this was started just to stir things up, but it might be worth pointing out that any such rearrangement is likely to have Kurds massacring Armenians, and vice versa, as they did in 1915 and has been the traditional way, in this part of the world, of dealing with neighbours you disagree with since Roman times. It’s not a good sign that the Kurdish armed fight is led by the PKK, which was listed as "a terrorist organisation" by the EU Council in 2002. As I imagined that this listing is supported by all good little EU supporting GCs, I am surprised to find any such suggestion in this forum.

[miltiades]

We are Cypriots and proud to be...Many believe we are the greatest people and nation in the world....Perhaps we should lead the way.

Zan , of course we are Cypriots , all of us .

[denizaksulu]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

Thats OK GetReal. I'd expect nothing less. Just trying to point out that Turkey would not give land away willy nilly.
As for the Errati I was referring to the first Constitution, I did not keep up to date with the three amendments.
Be gentle with me otherwise Phoenix will have you.


Regards

[Get Real!]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

Thats OK GetReal. I'd expect nothing less. Just trying to point out that Turkey would not give land away willy nilly.
As for the Errati I was referring to the first Constitution, I did not keep up to date with the three amendments.
Be gentle with me otherwise Phoenix will have you.

Regards

I can think of plenty of TCs on this forum that do nothing BUT agitate yet I’ve never seen you confront any of them… I wonder why?

Also, someone who supports the idea of an independent Kurdish state doesn’t necessarily also support the PKK.

With regards to Turkey being “indivisible” as per her constitution how ironic that they wish that for themselves yet have no such concern for others… what a pathetic bunch of illiterate gypsies they really are; I have ZERO respect for such clowns.

[denizaksulu]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

Thats OK GetReal. I'd expect nothing less. Just trying to point out that Turkey would not give land away willy nilly.
As for the Errati I was referring to the first Constitution, I did not keep up to date with the three amendments.
Be gentle with me otherwise Phoenix will have you.

Regards

I can think of plenty of TCs on this forum that do nothing BUT agitate yet I’ve never seen you confront any of them… I wonder why?

Also, someone who supports the idea of an independent Kurdish state doesn’t necessarily also support the PKK.

With regards to Turkey being “indivisible” as per her constitution how ironic that they wish that for themselves yet have no such concern for others… what a pathetic bunch of illiterate gypsies they really are; I have ZERO respect for such clowns.

You are absolutely right GetReal but you must admit being the MASTER of all. I am only complimenting you. You are doing a good job for the reunification process.

It is those 'illiterate gypsies' that are propping up your building industry. Dont mock too much.

Regards

[Get Real!]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

Thats OK GetReal. I'd expect nothing less. Just trying to point out that Turkey would not give land away willy nilly.
As for the Errati I was referring to the first Constitution, I did not keep up to date with the three amendments.
Be gentle with me otherwise Phoenix will have you.

Regards

I can think of plenty of TCs on this forum that do nothing BUT agitate yet I’ve never seen you confront any of them… I wonder why?

Also, someone who supports the idea of an independent Kurdish state doesn’t necessarily also support the PKK.

With regards to Turkey being “indivisible” as per her constitution how ironic that they wish that for themselves yet have no such concern for others… what a pathetic bunch of illiterate gypsies they really are; I have ZERO respect for such clowns.

You are absolutely right GetReal but you must admit being the MASTER of all. I am only complimenting you. You are doing a good job for the reunification process.

It is those 'illiterate gypsies' that are propping up your building industry. Dont mock too much.

Regards

We don't hire mullahs from Turkey in the building industry if that's what you mean.

[denizaksulu]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

Thats OK GetReal. I'd expect nothing less. Just trying to point out that Turkey would not give land away willy nilly.
As for the Errati I was referring to the first Constitution, I did not keep up to date with the three amendments.
Be gentle with me otherwise Phoenix will have you.

Regards

I can think of plenty of TCs on this forum that do nothing BUT agitate yet I’ve never seen you confront any of them… I wonder why?

Also, someone who supports the idea of an independent Kurdish state doesn’t necessarily also support the PKK.

With regards to Turkey being “indivisible” as per her constitution how ironic that they wish that for themselves yet have no such concern for others… what a pathetic bunch of illiterate gypsies they really are; I have ZERO respect for such clowns.

You are absolutely right GetReal but you must admit being the MASTER of all. I am only complimenting you. You are doing a good job for the reunification process.

It is those 'illiterate gypsies' that are propping up your building industry. Dont mock too much.

Regards

We don't hire mullahs from Turkey in the building industry if that's what you mean.

Mullahs / Mollas from Iran and or Iraq/Irak. Imams from Turkey. No I dont mean them. I have no time for them. I refer to the workforce you told me about at our meeting or was it on the other forum?
Have you moved in to your new Palace yet? Surely it must be finished by now.

[Get Real!]

I'll respond to you tonight dear Deniz... I'd rather give you plenty of time to post all erratums!

Thats OK GetReal. I'd expect nothing less. Just trying to point out that Turkey would not give land away willy nilly.
As for the Errati I was referring to the first Constitution, I did not keep up to date with the three amendments.
Be gentle with me otherwise Phoenix will have you.

Regards

I can think of plenty of TCs on this forum that do nothing BUT agitate yet I’ve never seen you confront any of them… I wonder why?

Also, someone who supports the idea of an independent Kurdish state doesn’t necessarily also support the PKK.

With regards to Turkey being “indivisible” as per her constitution how ironic that they wish that for themselves yet have no such concern for others… what a pathetic bunch of illiterate gypsies they really are; I have ZERO respect for such clowns.

You are absolutely right GetReal but you must admit being the MASTER of all. I am only complimenting you. You are doing a good job for the reunification process.

It is those 'illiterate gypsies' that are propping up your building industry. Dont mock too much.

Regards

We don't hire mullahs from Turkey in the building industry if that's what you mean.

Mullahs / Mollas from Iran and or Iraq/Irak. Imams from Turkey. No I dont mean them. I have no time for them. I refer to the workforce you told me about at our meeting or was it on the other forum?
Have you moved in to your new Palace yet? Surely it must be finished by now.

I've got the last batch of cabinet-making on order so I guess we'll just about make it before xmas...