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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:14 pm

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Nikitas wrote:In this age of computer driven warfare many of the old tenets are changing. And in any case I wasn ot referring to a clash between Cyprus and Turkey in my previoius post. What I said is that if there are technical developments around which change the nature of warfare, ie cancel out the advantage that the air force provides, then the negotiating table changes without eiither side actually owning these new weapons. FOr the simple reason that both sides realise that their armies are outmoded and outdated and they change their attitude during negotiations.

This time round the new technical advances are cheap enough for all nations to buy and the changes to warfare are going to be major. Celldar is a passive radar system that covers an area the size of Cyprus for the cost of a simple laptop computer, and that is just one example. Ask any pilots you know how they feel about being tracked on radar they cannot detect and you will know the effect of this simple device.

SO dont everyone get patriotic about who has and has not proven their military might. All nations have victories AND DEFEATS on their scoreboards. There is not a single nation I can think of that has not suffered defeats in its history.


If that makes you feel safer good for you but never forget that Turkey is a force to be reckoned with never under estimate her, it cost you dearly in 1974 and if 800.000 GCs have not learned their lesson and provoke Turkey she will take the necessary action to put in your place EU or no EU. This goes for any nation who provokes war they cannot then cry wolf when they get beaten to a pulp. If thats what you want for your people go ahead and try it...but I do not recommend it.

As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:17 pm

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Nikitas wrote:In this age of computer driven warfare many of the old tenets are changing. And in any case I wasn ot referring to a clash between Cyprus and Turkey in my previoius post. What I said is that if there are technical developments around which change the nature of warfare, ie cancel out the advantage that the air force provides, then the negotiating table changes without eiither side actually owning these new weapons. FOr the simple reason that both sides realise that their armies are outmoded and outdated and they change their attitude during negotiations.

This time round the new technical advances are cheap enough for all nations to buy and the changes to warfare are going to be major. Celldar is a passive radar system that covers an area the size of Cyprus for the cost of a simple laptop computer, and that is just one example. Ask any pilots you know how they feel about being tracked on radar they cannot detect and you will know the effect of this simple device.

SO dont everyone get patriotic about who has and has not proven their military might. All nations have victories AND DEFEATS on their scoreboards. There is not a single nation I can think of that has not suffered defeats in its history.


If that makes you feel safer good for you but never forget that Turkey is a force to be reckoned with never under estimate her, it cost you dearly in 1974 and if 800.000 GCs have not learned their lesson and provoke Turkey she will take the necessary action to put in your place EU or no EU. This goes for any nation who provokes war they cannot then cry wolf when they get beaten to a pulp. If thats what you want for your people go ahead and try it...but I do not recommend it.

As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


And your source?? GC based?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:25 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:In this age of computer driven warfare many of the old tenets are changing. And in any case I wasn ot referring to a clash between Cyprus and Turkey in my previoius post. What I said is that if there are technical developments around which change the nature of warfare, ie cancel out the advantage that the air force provides, then the negotiating table changes without eiither side actually owning these new weapons. FOr the simple reason that both sides realise that their armies are outmoded and outdated and they change their attitude during negotiations.

This time round the new technical advances are cheap enough for all nations to buy and the changes to warfare are going to be major. Celldar is a passive radar system that covers an area the size of Cyprus for the cost of a simple laptop computer, and that is just one example. Ask any pilots you know how they feel about being tracked on radar they cannot detect and you will know the effect of this simple device.

SO dont everyone get patriotic about who has and has not proven their military might. All nations have victories AND DEFEATS on their scoreboards. There is not a single nation I can think of that has not suffered defeats in its history.


If that makes you feel safer good for you but never forget that Turkey is a force to be reckoned with never under estimate her, it cost you dearly in 1974 and if 800.000 GCs have not learned their lesson and provoke Turkey she will take the necessary action to put in your place EU or no EU. This goes for any nation who provokes war they cannot then cry wolf when they get beaten to a pulp. If thats what you want for your people go ahead and try it...but I do not recommend it.

As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


And your source?? GC based?

Source of what? :?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:26 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Nikitas wrote:In this age of computer driven warfare many of the old tenets are changing. And in any case I wasn ot referring to a clash between Cyprus and Turkey in my previoius post. What I said is that if there are technical developments around which change the nature of warfare, ie cancel out the advantage that the air force provides, then the negotiating table changes without eiither side actually owning these new weapons. FOr the simple reason that both sides realise that their armies are outmoded and outdated and they change their attitude during negotiations.

This time round the new technical advances are cheap enough for all nations to buy and the changes to warfare are going to be major. Celldar is a passive radar system that covers an area the size of Cyprus for the cost of a simple laptop computer, and that is just one example. Ask any pilots you know how they feel about being tracked on radar they cannot detect and you will know the effect of this simple device.

SO dont everyone get patriotic about who has and has not proven their military might. All nations have victories AND DEFEATS on their scoreboards. There is not a single nation I can think of that has not suffered defeats in its history.


If that makes you feel safer good for you but never forget that Turkey is a force to be reckoned with never under estimate her, it cost you dearly in 1974 and if 800.000 GCs have not learned their lesson and provoke Turkey she will take the necessary action to put in your place EU or no EU. This goes for any nation who provokes war they cannot then cry wolf when they get beaten to a pulp. If thats what you want for your people go ahead and try it...but I do not recommend it.

As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


And your source?? GC based?

Source of what? :?


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.

That's the National Guard of Cyprus' website you turnip! :lol:

For English click on the top right-most corner where the word "English" is barely visible.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.

That's the National Guard of Cyprus' website you turnip! :lol:

For English click on the top right-most corner where the word "English" is barely visible.



Hardly visible GR. I better try again. I couldnt see it. Damn old age. :twisted:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:09 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.

That's the National Guard of Cyprus' website you turnip! :lol:

For English click on the top right-most corner where the word "English" is barely visible.



Hardly visible GR. I better try again. I couldnt see it. Damn old age. :twisted:

That's alright you know a bit of Greek anyway! :)
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.

'That's the National Guard of Cyprus' website you turnip! :lol:

For English click on the top right-most corner where the word "English" is barely visible.



Hardly visible GR. I better try again. I couldnt see it. Damn old age. :twisted:

That's alright you know a bit of Greek anyway! :)


But these dinky toys are what they are allowing us to see. Where are the 'heavy artillery' -Your Missile launchers etc. :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.

That's the National Guard of Cyprus' website you turnip! :lol:

For English click on the top right-most corner where the word "English" is barely visible.



The point is they are GC figures your dumbo therefore biased, and immediately rejected. Try harder.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:As I said to another TC fool waving a stick the other day...

Be careful what you wish for TC man because today both Turkey AND the RoC have firepower coming out of their ears, and unfortunately it is YOUR community that is the little meat dangling in the middle so if it ever comes to that I doubt you’ll have a community left. Here, open your eyes and learn...

http://www.army.gov.cy/index.php?id=227


Military statistics?? and you want us to believe GC sources? you must be joking yet again.

That's the National Guard of Cyprus' website you turnip! :lol:

For English click on the top right-most corner where the word "English" is barely visible.

The point is they are GC figures your dumbo therefore biased, and immediately rejected. Try harder.

Ignore the facts and just keep waving your little TC rice stick at your peril VP... :lol:
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