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Procrustean Priorities to Package GCs & TCs Together . .

Postby phoenix » Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:10 pm

Procrustes was famed for stretching or cutting bits off his victims to make them fit in to his bed.

http://www.mythweb.com/teachers/why/bas ... ustes.html

Are we attempting a Procrustean policy with GCs and TCs to force uniformity between them so that they can fit together on Cyprus regardless of their natural variations and individuality?
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:03 pm

Phoenix,

Since 1878 the Cypriots of all communities fit very nicely in the British Procrustean bed. After 1960 they even adopted British Common Law as the basic legal system, British style civil service, and they fit nicely into the British education system. This is proof that the two communities, given enough incentives, can adapt to most systems that are not simply copies of what happens in their respective "motherlands".
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:16 pm

A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:33 pm

Viewpoint wrote:A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.

Cyprus is not a polygon so she doesn’t have any “sides”. You’re either Cypriot or a foreigner… with us or against.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:40 pm

Nikitas wrote:Phoenix,

Since 1878 the Cypriots of all communities fit very nicely in the British Procrustean bed. After 1960 they even adopted British Common Law as the basic legal system, British style civil service, and they fit nicely into the British education system. This is proof that the two communities, given enough incentives, can adapt to most systems that are not simply copies of what happens in their respective "motherlands".


I wasn't implying they are copies of their "motherlands". I said they are individuals with natural variations.

Because of this they clearly have differences, religion, culture etc. To ignore this is to continue to face oppositions from each other and to each other.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:45 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.

Cyprus is not a polygon so she doesn’t have any “sides”. You’re either Cypriot or a foreigner… with us or against.


So there are no 2 major communities or even a border dividing the island into 2 parts north 37% and the south 63%...you are more blind than ever.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.


Subtle changes and trimmings rather than a forced "fit" can do wonders.

After all you are all wanting to become more European so you just have to follow our lead. Model yourselves on us and you can't go wrong. :D

(We can change a bit too, I suppose.)
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.

Cyprus is not a polygon so she doesn’t have any “sides”. You’re either Cypriot or a foreigner… with us or against.


So there are no 2 major communities or even a border dividing the island into 2 parts north 37% and the south 63%...you are more blind than ever.

I acknowledge the existence of a ceasefire line that marks the last war between Cyprus and Turkey but nothing else.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:57 pm

phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.


Subtle changes and trimmings rather than a forced "fit" can do wonders.

After all you are all wanting to become more European so you just have to follow our lead. Model yourselves on us and you can't go wrong. :D

(We can change a bit too, I suppose.)


You are joking arent you?** GCs European
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:00 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A forced "fit" will never work as neither side will be commited to making it work, I feel the penalties should be severe to ensure that if any side backs out or tries to change the parameters they know they will lose forever.

Cyprus is not a polygon so she doesn’t have any “sides”. You’re either Cypriot or a foreigner… with us or against.


So there are no 2 major communities or even a border dividing the island into 2 parts north 37% and the south 63%...you are more blind than ever.

I acknowledge the existence of a ceasefire line that marks the last war between Cyprus and Turkey but nothing else.


So there is a border in place? would you agree that the 2 major communities live separately the TCs in the north and the GCs in the south? or are you blind to this fact as well?
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