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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:52 pm

miltiades wrote:Your analogy is totaly wrong Zan. Look at it this way. millions of people drive their cars , or other vehicles. Would you class all drivers as irresponsible because some drive recklessly , another example is Sex , most , if not all , enjoy this perfectly natural activity. Would you call someone who has sex every day as a sex maniac , or a pervert.
Wine is as old as man , it has therapeutic qualities and it is endorsed by the medical profession, are they endorsing excessive irresponsible drinking ? Of course not .Here is another example, food is also enjoyed by all humans , would you therefore call every one fat because they eat , the answer is the same as those who drink for the sheer pleasure of it, Of course they are not drunkards.


My friend even your grand daughter calls you Grandpa-wine and you are trying to tell us you are limited to the quntities the doctors say is good for the heart? Who stays at that level Miltiades, be honest and admit it, NOBODY.

Hey perhaps I should start having a pack of asprins a day just because the doctors said it helps avoid cancer.

Do you know that alcohol is classified as a drug, whiskey is classified as equally addictive and dangerous as hashish, as for Zivania.... well it can even be used to run engines in the future.
As for nicotine a pure 1 gram nicotine is enough to cause instant death? At least I admit I am guilty of that :wink:

Personally I don't blame you or anyone else for your little passions. My point which i repeated more than 3 times is that some people write in this forum, while they are DRUNK.

It happened to me many times to just read posts and tell myself "Jesus this guy is DRUNK again"....
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:02 pm

Furthermore do I have to give names and examples and dates as to when someone said this and that AND IT WAS SO OBVIOUS he/she was totally DRUNK? No i will not do that, after all it's too many, both Gcs and Tcs, I just cleared out some names who some might have thought I was referring to...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:03 pm

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Addicts always make excuses and cannot see the problem, they are in denial, its a normal reaction.


And what is your excuse for your addiction to hate mate ? Too ugly maybe ???!!


You need to explain yourself, what on earth do you mean?? hate who?
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Postby zan » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:32 am

miltiades wrote:Your analogy is totaly wrong Zan. Look at it this way. millions of people drive their cars , or other vehicles. Would you class all drivers as irresponsible because some drive recklessly , another example is Sex , most , if not all , enjoy this perfectly natural activity. Would you call someone who has sex every day as a sex maniac , or a pervert.
Wine is as old as man , it has therapeutic qualities and it is endorsed by the medical profession, are they endorsing excessive irresponsible drinking ? Of course not .Here is another example, food is also enjoyed by all humans , would you therefore call every one fat because they eat , the answer is the same as those who drink for the sheer pleasure of it, Of course they are not drunkards.


I can see cars as bringing out the worst in some of us Miltiades but I would definitely say that someone who has sex EVERY day is an addict. Micheal Douglas is one such person that had to have treatment for it. We can get addicted to almost anything it seems but "Natural" products are one thing and then when you take a substance that has its own addictive qualities, and not totally necessary to life, it seems irresponsible. This is the very rule we apply to mind altering drugs but because of the kudos placed on drinking, that seems not to be taken into consideration. The industry itself also gives me cause for concern. Designing drinks aimed at the younger people of our society. One of the major reasons as to why I will NOT smoke is that I read in a Readers Digest magazine that because the Tobacco industry were losing custom in the western world, through pressure groups, they sent truck loads of cigarettes to Africa and gave them away free outside schools. The sole purpose being to create a new generation of addicts and subsequently a new market. How anyone can smoke after that bit of news is beyond me.
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