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[Piratis]

The Anna plan was beyond repair when Papadopulos was elected. You can not blame Papadopoulos due to the failed policy of Cleredes and his predecessors.

In a discussion I had today it was said to me that it was Cleredes who accepted the term "bi-communal" to be added to the kind of "solution" we are after. Is this true?

In the past we have made way too many compromises without getting anything in return and now the work of Papadopoulos to fight for our rights is extremely difficult. He is doing what he can.

What is clear is that the Cypriot people had enough of the "good boy - pants -down" policies. This is why even Kasoulides and Christofias are trying to hide their real intentions in order to deceive the Cypriot people. Unfortunately for them their true intentions have been shown during the referendum and that was not that long time ago for people to forget.

[Bananiot]

Papadopoulos has always been ultra right. The Americans knew better than my friend Get Real and moved quickly to secure his services in order to "deal" with AKEL. Besides, look at his present day supporters and draw your own conclusions.

Was it not Papadopoulos who sent a letter to the Secretary General in December 2003 asking him to urgently convene talks in order to solve the issue on the basis of the Annan Plan? He wrote, further more, that if the issue is not solved before accession, Cyprus will be "europartitioned". He is realising his wishes, it seems, and Piratis and the rest of his blind supporters are cheering on top.

Oh, and what about the good old days, when we were the "good boys" according to the phraseology of the cretins, when Turkey was in the corner and no Talat dared step outside his pseudo office!

[Kifeas]

Papadopoulos has always been ultra right. The Americans knew better than my friend Get Real and moved quickly to secure his services in order to "deal" with AKEL. Besides, look at his present day supporters and draw your own conclusions.

Was it not Papadopoulos who sent a letter to the Secretary General in December 2003 asking him to urgently convene talks in order to solve the issue on the basis of the Annan Plan? He wrote, further more, that if the issue is not solved before accession, Cyprus will be "europartitioned". He is realising his wishes, it seems, and Piratis and the rest of his blind supporters are cheering on top.

Oh, and what about the good old days, when we were the "good boys" according to the phraseology of the cretins, when Turkey was in the corner and no Talat dared step outside his pseudo office!

Of course, it completely “escapes” your memory that this particular letter in December 2003 was not made out any "europartition fears," but instead it was made deliberately (a huge mistake in my opinion) in order to indirectly help Talat's party win the "parliamentary elections," by reinforcing among the Turkish "Cypriot" public the notion that the GC side continued to remain on track for a solution within the parameters of the then Annan plan version, in spite of the fact that EU accession had already been secured 8 months earlier and actual accession was about to materialise in only 5 moths ahead!

[Piratis]

Oh, and what about the good old days, when we were the "good boys" according to the phraseology of the cretins, when Turkey was in the corner and no Talat dared step outside his pseudo office!

Bananiot, are you just stupid or your pretend to be one? Sure they were in the "corner", and because we were the good boys that would accept everything and they were the tough ones, on every round they were giving more and more to them (on our loss) until they got almost everything they have been demanding.

So now tell me, was that the right way of negotiating?

This island is our island, and we are going to decide in a democratic way what we want for it. Not any foreigners, minorities (alone), or leaders that budge under pressure. Lets make referendum and ask from the people to choose directly what they want for their own island.

[zan]

Oh, and what about the good old days, when we were the "good boys" according to the phraseology of the cretins, when Turkey was in the corner and no Talat dared step outside his pseudo office!

Bananiot, are you just stupid or your pretend to be one? Sure they were in the "corner", and because we were the good boys that would accept everything and they were the tough ones, on every round they were giving more and more to them (on our loss) until they got almost everything they have been demanding.

So now tell me, was that the right way of negotiating?

This island is our island, and we are going to decide in a democratic way what we want for it. Not any foreigners, minorities (alone), or leaders that budge under pressure. Lets make referendum and ask from the people to choose directly what they want for their own island.

I think that might need to be two referendums....One in the South and one in the North....You are right...This IS our island. there are no minorities but two distinct types of Cypriot......You should have accepted this fact a long while ago.

[Piratis]

There should be one referendum and your minority is welcomed to participate. If your minority has not assimilated enough to be part of the Cypriot people then you can go from where you came from.

[zan]

There should be one referendum and your minority is welcomed to participate. If your minority has not assimilated enough to be part of the Cypriot people then you can go from where you came from.

All that because you dare to assume the position of supreme Cypriot We veto that decision and only give you the choice of surrendering part of the island to Greeks....We would prefer you not to do that either but you have to ask your own people...