The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


The EU...Not the "RoC".

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

The EU...Not the "RoC".

Postby zan » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:21 am

Launch of project to replace water pipes in Nicosia

The EU will fund the replacement of water pipes and domestic water meters in the northern part of Nicosia. This is the first work project to be financed from the EU aid programme for the Turkish Cypriot community and has a planned budget of about EUR4 million. The tender will be announced on the EU website as well as in the local press. EU companies as well as those from candidate countries may bid. The deadline for bids is 11 December.
The water pipes to be replaced are mainly made from asbestos cement and are in poor condition leading to possible health hazards as well as up to 60% losses through leaks. The project foresees replacement of the main pipes over a length of 83 kms as well as the replacement of house connections and 3800 domestic water meters. The new installations will meet EU standards.
The EUR259 million EU aid programme for the Turkish Cypriot community is managed by the European Commission. Upgrading of infrastructure to EU standards is a major component of the programme, particularly in the area of water distribution and waste water collection and treatment.
User avatar
zan
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 16213
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:55 pm

Postby Piratis » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:14 am

And Zan, maybe you should also remind us why the EU is funding this project and where EU finds the money (from the taxes paid by the law obeying EU citizens perhaps?)

So my friend, if you write "RoC" (in quotes) then you should also write "EU" (in quotes) and not accept the money.

The money are given because Nicosia (the whole of it) just like every other part of Cyprus is territory of the EU member state Republic of Cyprus and therefore EU territory as well.
User avatar
Piratis
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 12261
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:08 pm

Postby utu » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:32 am

Piratis, I think that this EU-funded project is going ahead in spite of - rather than with the approval of - the Papadopolous Government. The policy of isolation has not changed from your government, and given the current attitudes prevailig, it is not likely to change anytime soon.
User avatar
utu
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 944
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:32 am
Location: British Columbia

Postby zan » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:34 am

I think he was just saying that being in the club is all they need...The rest is just petty detail...
User avatar
zan
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 16213
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:55 pm

Postby BigDutch » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:31 am

This has been on the cards for ages and has never been queried by the RoC as far as i remember. Direct trade has been questioned but not the aid, i remember the RoC wanted to handle the aid directly but i think this was rightly overrulled considering the lack of communication at the highest levels.

I can't see how this is being used to put a negative spin on the RoC ?

Surely the fact it only mentions TC community rather than "TRNC" or "Turkey" just highlights the fact the aid is for the people not the regime. The people are seen to be within the RoC but due to the occupation is outside of the RoC control.
BigDutch
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 308
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:35 pm
Location: Paphos

Postby Nikitas » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:43 am

And one vital detail- the money for this project and all others in the EU comes from the VAT that all European citizens pay on all transactions- all except people in northern Cyprus. Another instance of the "special case" scenario which prevents the general EU legal order applying in the north or in other words accepting the benefits but not the burdens of EU membership,. The situation sinks to the low point of "taxing" items people buy in the south, treating them as "imported" goods. If they are imported from the EU that means that by the regime's definition the north is not in the EU.
Nikitas
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 7420
Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:49 pm

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 am

Let poor Zan have some joy guys. Let him have his little bayrami about being the EU not the Republic of Cyprus who is reason behind changing their "pipes" and their "meters".
Maybe all he needs is to have new "pipes" and new "meters" in his brain too. :lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
Pyrpolizer
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12893
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:33 pm

Postby zan » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 am

Nikitas wrote:And one vital detail- the money for this project and all others in the EU comes from the VAT that all European citizens pay on all transactions- all except people in northern Cyprus. Another instance of the "special case" scenario which prevents the general EU legal order applying in the north or in other words accepting the benefits but not the burdens of EU membership,. The situation sinks to the low point of "taxing" items people buy in the south, treating them as "imported" goods. If they are imported from the EU that means that by the regime's definition the north is not in the EU.


Hey Nikitas....Have a look at this and tell me what you think... think it is disgusting..
http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 8&oe=UTF-8




The "RoC" held on to money "until" a settlement that was destined for us..and promised..This is a snub on them...
User avatar
zan
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 16213
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:55 pm

Postby miltiades » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:08 am

The usage of inverted commas for the ROC is indeed an anachronism just as the denial of the Armenian genocide .
Cyprus , not only the South , but the whole island is considered by the EU as part of the ROC. Recognition will never occur , Turkey believe it or not will not allow it .
User avatar
miltiades
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 19837
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:01 pm

Postby EPSILON » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:12 am

Piratis wrote:And Zan, maybe you should also remind us why the EU is funding this project and where EU finds the money (from the taxes paid by the law obeying EU citizens perhaps?)

So my friend, if you write "RoC" (in quotes) then you should also write "EU" (in quotes) and not accept the money.

The money are given because Nicosia (the whole of it) just like every other part of Cyprus is territory of the EU member state Republic of Cyprus and therefore EU territory as well.


The question is: Are the Tcs pay taxes to EU? Then why they are entitled to financial or other help? o, maybe because they are a special race
User avatar
EPSILON
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2851
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 2:28 pm
Location: ATHENS

Next

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest