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Postby Piratis » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:26 pm

The situation now is that part of Republic of Cyprus is under illegal Turkish occupation. Nobody recognizes your pseudo state, including EU. Thats how is the situation now and thats how it will stay until a solution is found.
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Postby zan » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:28 pm

Piratis wrote:The situation now is that part of Republic of Cyprus is under illegal Turkish occupation. Nobody recognizes your pseudo state, including EU. Thats how is the situation now and thats how it will stay until a solution is found.


So what the hell are you asking for taxes then... :roll:
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:46 pm

Scoring points with ingorance on what points exactly? Participating in a process like the EU is simple, you either participate or you don't. No one objected to the aid, but beyond aid there is the process of being and taking part. There we have the old "we are a special case" scenario. That is what was said.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:10 pm

shahmaran wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Piratis wrote:And Zan, maybe you should also remind us why the EU is funding this project and where EU finds the money (from the taxes paid by the law obeying EU citizens perhaps?)

So my friend, if you write "RoC" (in quotes) then you should also write "EU" (in quotes) and not accept the money.

The money are given because Nicosia (the whole of it) just like every other part of Cyprus is territory of the EU member state Republic of Cyprus and therefore EU territory as well.


The question is: Are the Tcs pay taxes to EU? Then why they are entitled to financial or other help? o, maybe because they are a special race


EU is doing the same for some random little villages in Turkey as well, a sewer system costing over 400.000 Euros i believe, which was initially turned down by the Pontus villagers who were skeptical about the real intentions of the EU who is suddenly giving them 400.000 Euros but no one could explain them why, but when the neighboring village offered to accept it instead, they quickly jumped on the opportunity hehe i love the Laz mentality bless them!

The point is the EU is helping people out who are in need, why is that pissing you off so much? Or is it only because they happen to be Turkish?


Yashasin Shah. :lol: :lol: :lol:
You have the same sense of humor like Kikapu you know.

But where is he?????
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:18 pm

Coming back to the topic the EU promised those 259 million a long time ago for the TC COMMUNITY of it's member state Cyprus. It does that because the EU knows that sooner or later it will apply it's Aquis everywhere in Cyprus even to the norther currently occupied part.
The EU is not stupid not a charity organization. It will get it's money back one day.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:22 pm

Nikitas wrote: The EU has said that the whole island was in the EU but the legal order applies only to the south, since the north is not willing to apply EU standards and rules. Another instance of Turkish Cypriots claiming to be a special case requiring exceptional treatment. In other words it is all rights (what it can get) and no obligations (give nothing in return). If you recall, Denktash refused to participate in any part of the induction negotiations and was against the EU entry from the start to the end.
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Nikitas, is the "north" being regarded by the EU as any sort of separate entity that is supposed to have a choice or the option to be willing or not, as to whether it will apply EU standards?

Sorry my friend, but the above claim of yours is absurd! The reason the EU aqui is suspended in the OCCUPIED by Turkey northern part of Cyprus is because the RoC cannot enforce its authority (due to the presence of the Turkish troops that prohibit it,) and consequently, it cannot be held liable for not applying it in this part of its vicinity! The so-called "TRNC" is not any sort of an (unwilling) partner in the accession of Cyprus into the EU, neither the Turkish occupation authorities! Nobody has asked them, and it would have been inconceivable to do so by the EU, so that they would have had the chance or the option to express their unwillingness to do so!

What happened in the past was for the TC community to participate in the accession negotiating process, but as a community of Cyprus under the RoC constitutional provisions, and NOT as any sort territorial entity in "control" of the "north!" The "north" is an area of the RoC that is under occupation and not an entity by itself that is legitimately ruled or controlled by the TCs! Needless to say it neither under the control of the TCs, for it is Turkey that calls the shots!
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:45 pm

I thought Boomerang was Kikapu, sorry my confusion...

The EU has lied to us and so has many other people, coincidentally did you hear about the 2 Italian politicians who came here and got themselves TRNC nationalities in order to protest the way the EU is treating the TCs? Quite amusing i must say...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:08 pm

shahmaran wrote:I thought Boomerang was Kikapu, sorry my confusion...

The EU has lied to us and so has many other people, coincidentally did you hear about the 2 Italian politicians who came here and got themselves TRNC nationalities in order to protest the way the EU is treating the TCs? Quite amusing i must say...


Yes i heard it shah. I even heard Soyer went in Italy to make a home delivery of his golden passports. Which country in the whole world delivers passports to foreigners shah? :razz: :razz: :razz:

I remember one of those ex MPs name was Turco, no? I even visited the home page of this Radical party I saw they had -0 Mps, hmm how is that? I then checked again they are targetting to get votes from all sorts of immigrants supporting very weird "movements" all around the world.

then thought look man what some people might think juuuuust to collect some votes to mayyyyyybe elect juuuuust one tiny little bit of an MP

Oh yes Shah it was a nice bayrami.
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:18 pm

Does that make the EU's actions any more acceptable?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:30 pm

Hey Shah, sorry to burst your bubble, but if you are telling me everybody lied to you and you believed them then what that makes you Shah? :wink:
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