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[shahmaran]

And Zan, maybe you should also remind us why the EU is funding this project and where EU finds the money (from the taxes paid by the law obeying EU citizens perhaps?)

So my friend, if you write "RoC" (in quotes) then you should also write "EU" (in quotes) and not accept the money.

The money are given because Nicosia (the whole of it) just like every other part of Cyprus is territory of the EU member state Republic of Cyprus and therefore EU territory as well.

The question is: Are the Tcs pay taxes to EU? Then why they are entitled to financial or other help? o, maybe because they are a special race

EU is doing the same for some random little villages in Turkey as well, a sewer system costing over 400.000 Euros i believe, which was initially turned down by the Pontus villagers who were skeptical about the real intentions of the EU who is suddenly giving them 400.000 Euros but no one could explain them why, but when the neighboring village offered to accept it instead, they quickly jumped on the opportunity hehe i love the Laz mentality bless them!

The point is the EU is helping people out who are in need, why is that pissing you off so much? Or is it only because they happen to be Turkish?

[Nikitas]

Shah your way out of synch here.

Cyprus was accepted into the EU because it managed to complete all 30 dossiers of harmonisation in record time and due to the hard work of Cypriots and the leadership of one man, Yannos Kranidiotis, a professional diplomat.

The EU has said that the whole island was in the EU but the legal order applies only to the south, since the north is not willing to apply EU standards and rules. Another instance of Turkish Cypriots claiming to be a special case requiring exceptional treatment. In other words it is all rights (what it can get) and no obligations (give nothing in return). If you recall, Denktash refused to participate in any part of the induction negotiations and was against the EU entry from the start to the end.

The south is now fully in the EU, liable to the burdens as well as the benefits. People pay VAT, abide by regulations and directives and some of them are pretty tough, like the order to kill one quarter of all animal stock to prevent a disease and the limitaion of its fishing fleet because the EU demands it.

It is natural that people feel strange when one side gets benefits without offering anything in return. There are areas of the EU in Romania that are much poorer than the north of Cyprus, but they have not asked for any exceptions because they are members and accept the pros and cons of membership. Are the Turkish Cypriots willing to become full members of the EU and accept the same as the poorest EU citizens? Simple and nothing to do with the "it is because we are Turks" excuse.

[EPSILON]

And Zan, maybe you should also remind us why the EU is funding this project and where EU finds the money (from the taxes paid by the law obeying EU citizens perhaps?)

So my friend, if you write "RoC" (in quotes) then you should also write "EU" (in quotes) and not accept the money.

The money are given because Nicosia (the whole of it) just like every other part of Cyprus is territory of the EU member state Republic of Cyprus and therefore EU territory as well.

The question is: Are the Tcs pay taxes to EU? Then why they are entitled to financial or other help? o, maybe because they are a special race

EU is doing the same for some random little villages in Turkey as well, a sewer system costing over 400.000 Euros i believe, which was initially turned down by the Pontus villagers who were skeptical about the real intentions of the EU who is suddenly giving them 400.000 Euros but no one could explain them why, but when the neighboring village offered to accept it instead, they quickly jumped on the opportunity hehe i love the Laz mentality bless them!

The point is the EU is helping people out who are in need, why is that pissing you off so much? Or is it only because they happen to be Turkish?

Turkey is a candidate country and secondly is an official, internationally regognized state. Do you understand now why I have objections ? Same not related to nationalities or ethnicities but on international law which i am not sure whether EU is violate when help NC Regime.

[miltiades]

Cyprus is NOT THE GREEK REPUBLIC you bloody well know this and you persist in referring to it as the Greek Republic.Go and take a run and a jump mate and leave Cyprus to its rightful owners with the internationally known name of CYPRUS.
What a bloody insult !!

[shahmaran]

Well what can i say, thank god you guys are not in charge!!

[EPSILON]

Cyprus is NOT THE GREEK REPUBLIC you bloody well know this and you persist in referring to it as the Greek Republic.Go and take a run and a jump mate and leave Cyprus to its rightful owners with the internationally known name of CYPRUS.
What a bloody insult !!

You mean these you destroyed the Island and they are still in charge in all political parties? As far as rightful owners I am as rightfull owner like you are, at least.

Our difference is that you mind can thing in a range between Limassol to Agia Napa and mine can travel worldwide and particularly on how exactly the other side is thinking and presending their policies. I just follow their way as an efort to save something at the end.

[EPSILON]

Cyprus is NOT THE GREEK REPUBLIC you bloody well know this and you persist in referring to it as the Greek Republic.Go and take a run and a jump mate and leave Cyprus to its rightful owners with the internationally known name of CYPRUS.
What a bloody insult !!

And something else Miltiades . i have told you many times in the past-stop to drink tzivania when you are posting

[miltiades]

Cyprus is NOT THE GREEK REPUBLIC you bloody well know this and you persist in referring to it as the Greek Republic.Go and take a run and a jump mate and leave Cyprus to its rightful owners with the internationally known name of CYPRUS.
What a bloody insult !!

And something else Miltiades . i have told you many times in the past-stop to drink tzivania when you are posting

You are blatantly supporting the division of MY COUNTRY into a Greek and Turkish republic. My country of birth IS CYPRUS , moron understand that we are first and foremost Cypriots. The bullshit with Zivania is your pathetic way to support your stupid ideology.Do you not see that by stating "THE GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS " you are endorsing partition , are you too much in a state of lethargic hibernation to comprehend this.
Just a correction ZIVANIA is neither written as Tzivania nor pronounced as Tzivania .

[EPSILON]

Cyprus is NOT THE GREEK REPUBLIC you bloody well know this and you persist in referring to it as the Greek Republic.Go and take a run and a jump mate and leave Cyprus to its rightful owners with the internationally known name of CYPRUS.
What a bloody insult !!

And something else Miltiades . i have told you many times in the past-stop to drink tzivania when you are posting

You are blatantly supporting the division of MY COUNTRY into a Greek and Turkish republic. My country of birth IS CYPRUS , moron understand that we are first and foremost Cypriots. The bullshit with Zivania is your pathetic way to support your stupid ideology.Do you not see that by stating "THE GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS " you are endorsing partition , are you too much in a state of lethargic hibernation to comprehend this.
Just a correction ZIVANIA is neither written as Tzivania nor pronounced as Tzivania .

And by shouting that you are Cypriots you will suceed to share the control of all island with the mainland Turkey - in such a case pls rethink maybe is possible to save the half of itr

[zan]

Shah your way out of synch here.

Cyprus was accepted into the EU because it managed to complete all 30 dossiers of harmonisation in record time and due to the hard work of Cypriots and the leadership of one man, Yannos Kranidiotis, a professional diplomat.

The EU has said that the whole island was in the EU but the legal order applies only to the south, since the north is not willing to apply EU standards and rules. Another instance of Turkish Cypriots claiming to be a special case requiring exceptional treatment. In other words it is all rights (what it can get) and no obligations (give nothing in return). If you recall, Denktash refused to participate in any part of the induction negotiations and was against the EU entry from the start to the end.

The south is now fully in the EU, liable to the burdens as well as the benefits. People pay VAT, abide by regulations and directives and some of them are pretty tough, like the order to kill one quarter of all animal stock to prevent a disease and the limitaion of its fishing fleet because the EU demands it.

It is natural that people feel strange when one side gets benefits without offering anything in return. There are areas of the EU in Romania that are much poorer than the north of Cyprus, but they have not asked for any exceptions because they are members and accept the pros and cons of membership. Are the Turkish Cypriots willing to become full members of the EU and accept the same as the poorest EU citizens? Simple and nothing to do with the "it is because we are Turks" excuse.

The sum is aid and nothing else. We would be more than happy to pay taxes but they are not coming through the "RoC" so how else would you suggest we pay...Is the "RoC" going to let us pay under the TRNC/KKTC.......Lets be serious here and stop trying to score points with ignorance...That is the situation and until a settlement that is how it will stay...The same as in exports...