Pyrpolizer wrote:TIMI, MANDRIA, AND KOLONI are inhabited and in perfect condition.
Zero credibility for VP again!
Will he EVER get his FACTS right???
DT. wrote:phoenix wrote:zan wrote:phoenix wrote:Viewpoint wrote:phoenix wrote:Well if either Zan or VP can provide SOME relevant information that would be something . . . remember we're talking heritage here, and post 1974 looting and plunder (not wear and tear or neglect).
Please define what you mean by wear and tear or neglect? a mosque ransacked and left to deteriorate is no different from a church ransacked and left to natures will. You claim blue murder on churches but ignore the mosques, why is that I wonder?
Wear and tear or neglect are due to the Mosques having been left by the people who normally maintain them. There understandably would be little expectation from both sides to say, paint the windows every five years or renew the wiring etc. So naturally they would fall into disrepair through neglect. That would be acceptable since we are in a situation of war / ceasefire.
But what you are confusing and what I am complaining about is when there is deliberate and wilful removal of artifacts from these buildings. What GR! had exposed is the deliberate removal of icons and such like from the churches for the purpose of selling them and making money.
Now you are claiming the same has been done to treasures from the Mosques. So I would appreciate you providing some evidence rather than just making comments.
wasn't Matsakis arrested for having a couple of house loads of antiques Isn't he still in government along with that other crook Tpap
If you are referring to the following . . .
http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default. ... 1&heading=
. . . then it's just charges which he denies, so innocent until proven guilty is the verdict.
he got proven innocent. Case closed a while back
zan wrote:Two houses full of antiquities and he gets off with it......hahahahahahahaaaaa
phoenix wrote:Viewpoint wrote:phoenix wrote:Viewpoint wrote:phoenix wrote:Well if either Zan or VP can provide SOME relevant information that would be something . . . remember we're talking heritage here, and post 1974 looting and plunder (not wear and tear or neglect).
Please define what you mean by wear and tear or neglect? a mosque ransacked and left to deteriorate is no different from a church ransacked and left to natures will. You claim blue murder on churches but ignore the mosques, why is that I wonder?
Wear and tear or neglect are due to the Mosques having been left by the people who normally maintain them. There understandably would be little expectation from both sides to say, paint the windows every five years or renew the wiring etc. So naturally they would fall into disrepair through neglect. That would be acceptable since we are in a situation of war / ceasefire.
But what you are confusing and what I am complaining about is when there is deliberate and wilful removal of artifacts from these buildings. What GR! had exposed is the deliberate removal of icons and such like from the churches for the purpose of selling them and making money.
Now you are claiming the same has been done to treasures from the Mosques. So I would appreciate you providing some evidence rather than just making comments.
Here you go.....names of villages where you will rejoice and us cry in the destruction of anything TC, homes mosques produce...
YAGMURALAN
YOLÜSTÜ (KOLONİ)
TABANLI (İSTİNCO)
YEŞİLOVA (MANDİRYA)
OVALIK (DİMİ)
These are just a few go visit and report back your findings.
Where is the evidence VP?
Are they just neglected? . . . doesn't count.What proof do you have that artifacts were removed and sold for profit.? That is what we are discussing.
I see no similarities with GR!'s strong case against the "TRNC".
Again, you are giving me hearsay. Not valid.
miltiades wrote:Viewpoint wrote:phoenix wrote:Viewpoint wrote:phoenix wrote:Well if either Zan or VP can provide SOME relevant information that would be something . . . remember we're talking heritage here, and post 1974 looting and plunder (not wear and tear or neglect).
Please define what you mean by wear and tear or neglect? a mosque ransacked and left to deteriorate is no different from a church ransacked and left to natures will. You claim blue murder on churches but ignore the mosques, why is that I wonder?
Wear and tear or neglect are due to the Mosques having been left by the people who normally maintain them. There understandably would be little expectation from both sides to say, paint the windows every five years or renew the wiring etc. So naturally they would fall into disrepair through neglect. That would be acceptable since we are in a situation of war / ceasefire.
But what you are confusing and what I am complaining about is when there is deliberate and wilful removal of artifacts from these buildings. What GR! had exposed is the deliberate removal of icons and such like from the churches for the purpose of selling them and making money.
Now you are claiming the same has been done to treasures from the Mosques. So I would appreciate you providing some evidence rather than just making comments.
Here you go.....names of villages where you will rejoice and us cry in the destruction of anything TC, homes mosques produce...
YAGMURALAN
YOLÜSTÜ (KOLONİ)
TABANLI (İSTİNCO)
YEŞİLOVA (MANDİRYA)
OVALIK (DİMİ)
These are just a few go visit and report back your findings.
You are talking nonsense , as usual . I visited ISTINJO , The mosque is still standing intact , the entire village is in a state of desprepair but has no evidence of malicious destruction , all signs also direct you to ISTINJO !!!
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