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Postby Filitsa » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:51 pm

I find nothing you've written to appear disparaging, Nikitas. You state facts that can be corroborated by other credible sources. You refrain from using sarcasm, making hasty generalizations, and taking leaps in logic. You and few others lend credibility to this thread.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:22 pm

Filitsa wrote:I find nothing you've written to appear disparaging, Nikitas. You state facts that can be corroborated by other credible sources. You refrain from using sarcasm, making hasty generalizations, and taking leaps in logic. You and few others lend credibility to this thread.

But you still fail to explain why you insist on playing the criminal's advocate...
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Postby phoenix » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:58 pm

I guess your 90 minute window of opportunity for incessant re-editing has passed.
Filitsa wrote:(Ye of multiple virtual personalities speaks to me on ethics and dishonesty. Now ain't that "the pot calling the kettle black"! :lol: :lol: :lol:)

Not multiple personalities, merely multiple names. One personality and one common objective.
Filitsa wrote:Although you may have "clearly said the two posts of yours to which I replied," it would be "unethical" to isolate them from the context of this thread as they were written within the context of this thread and intended to be understood within the context of this thread.

The context of the thread and your subjective aspersions are disparate and amorphous.
Filitsa wrote:Look at the title of this thread and the sarcasm in GR's initial post, Phoenix.

The sarcasm and cynicism are only evident in your post Filitsa.
Filitsa wrote: Do they reflect a sincere concern for looted Cypriot antiquities? Seems to me his point is to shame Turkish Cypriots ... at least that's what the title says.

If you care to look beyond your inflated ego at having reached a conclusion that satisfies only you . . .
Who do you think should be condemned and shamed for the looting?
Is it the displaced 200,000 GCs that are not around to guard them?
Filitsa wrote:What I find "highly unethical" and shameful is exploitation ... the exploitation of a topic as serious as stolen Cypriot antiquities for the destructive purpose of disparaging Turkish Cypriots in general. This is what this thread, and the resurrection of an article 10 years old, amounts to.

The fact that it is 10 years old has no bearing . . as I pointed out the second crime is 33 years old, but it is no less a crime.
You are guilty of the shameful exploitation of which you accuse others.

Filitsa: Having now perused some of your previous posts I deduce that you appear to have been on a witch hunt. You were overeager to condemn for the wrong reasons and as such have put yourself in the unfortunate position of condoning the looting of our heritage.
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:11 pm

A more recent article on the shameful continuation of the looting.

http://www.atrium-media.com/rogueclassi ... 03743.html
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:16 pm

phoenix wrote:A more recent article on the shameful continuation of the looting.

http://www.atrium-media.com/rogueclassi ... 03743.html

:shock: This cannot be... according to Filitsa aka Ayshe, that only took place once 10 years ago so we should quit blaming Turkish Cypriots!
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:04 pm

Posted by david meadows on Tue, May 23, 2006 at 4:24 A


I think we can glean something else from that article but being as bias as it sounded in the first few sentences I stopped reading it.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:27 pm

zan wrote:Posted by david meadows on Tue, May 23, 2006 at 4:24 A


I think we can glean something else from that article but being as bias as it sounded in the first few sentences I stopped reading it.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Zan . . . stop being pedantic . . . no one is saying it is in today's newspapers. :roll: Even two years would be acceptable as it can take that long to archive material onto sites.

But I'll use this opportunity to draw your attention to a fuller category of looting and plunder of Cypriot Heritage by the Turks (or whatever you want to call them) in the occupied part. I think some of it was catalogued around 2006, is that OK?


http://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/DA/DA.nsf/All ... enDocument
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:30 pm

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:Posted by david meadows on Tue, May 23, 2006 at 4:24 A


I think we can glean something else from that article but being as bias as it sounded in the first few sentences I stopped reading it.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Zan . . . stop being pedantic . . . no one is saying it is in today's newspapers. :roll: Even two years would be acceptable as it can take that long to archive material onto sites.

But I'll use this opportunity to draw your attention to a fuller category of looting and plunder of Cypriot Heritage by the Turks (or whatever you want to call them) in the occupied part. I think some of it was catalogued around 2005, is that OK?


http://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/DA/DA.nsf/All ... enDocument


How much research have you done for the "RoC" side of the island to balance these findings out then..... :lol: :lol: :lol: Mosques burned to the ground along with homes and lives........I can always do you a painting if you like...Zanangelos are very much in demand at the moment...
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:34 pm

zan wrote:How much research have you done for the "RoC" side of the island to balance these findings out then..... :lol: :lol: :lol: Mosques burned to the ground along with homes and lives........I can always do you a painting if you like...Zanangelos are very much in demand at the moment...


Zan, surely that would be your department! :roll:

However, if all you can do is make some disparaging remark that is neither backed up by evidence nor facts, I would speculate that you have tried to source such material and found a lack of reciprocated looting.

Whilst I have a soft spot for the architecture of mosques (especially after reading "The Road to Oxiana" . . . cracking!) they remain on Cyprus, for me, a constant reminder that they were erected by invaders as a sign that they had conquered. Unlike the Cypriot heritage, that spans many more centuries and was established as part of a way of life and not as trophies.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:49 pm

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:How much research have you done for the "RoC" side of the island to balance these findings out then..... :lol: :lol: :lol: Mosques burned to the ground along with homes and lives........I can always do you a painting if you like...Zanangelos are very much in demand at the moment...


Zan, surely that would be your department! :roll:

However, if all you can do is make some disparaging remark that is neither backed up by evidence nor facts, I would speculate that you have tried to source such material and found a lack of reciprocated looting.

Whilst I have a soft spot for the architecture of mosques (especially after reading "The Road to Oxiana" . . . cracking!) they remain on Cyprus, for me, a constant reminder that they were erected by invaders as a sign that they had conquered. Unlike the Cypriot heritage, that spans many more centuries and was established as part of a way of life and not as trophies.



Do you want a list of villages where TC mosques and properties have been vandalized and pulled down? Will you go check them or swallow the crap your administration feed you.
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