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[Nikitas]

VP,

You are not a Cypriot! I just realised it from your response to the above post. You just don't understand the emotional burden of looking at a place which is the foundation of your personal history and yet it is no longer there. It has nothing to do with politics. The reason you dont understand is because you are not from Cyprus. Any Cypriot, no matter which community he belongs to, knows what we mean.

[Viewpoint]

VP,

You are not a Cypriot! I just realised it from your response to the above post. You just don't understand the emotional burden of looking at a place which is the foundation of your personal history and yet it is no longer there. It has nothing to do with politics. The reason you dont understand is because you are not from Cyprus. Any Cypriot, no matter which community he belongs to, knows what we mean.

You may be right I was not born on the island (both my parents were and also my wife) but do not love it any less than you do. I am also just as Turkish Cypriot as anyone else in the TRNC. What you seem to use as a cover up for your sins is the we are all Cypriots excuse so lets all live together and let the "Cypriots" rule...luckily enough for you 80% of the population will be GCs so you have no problem, we on the other havd do nto trust GCs due to their past relation and acts towards TCs. All we ask for is safeguards and heavy penalities in aunited Cyprus where we not be excluded from determining our own future in a way which isnot against our will. Why is this so difficult for GCs to understand.

Peoples emotions when returning to their towns is sincere but dont forget we choose to live thousands of miles away in other countries, we ar enow able to visit freely both sides of the island, its very unlikely there people will return to live in their old properties.

[Get Real!]

VP,

You are not a Cypriot! I just realised it from your response to the above post. You just don't understand the emotional burden of looking at a place which is the foundation of your personal history and yet it is no longer there. It has nothing to do with politics. The reason you dont understand is because you are not from Cyprus. Any Cypriot, no matter which community he belongs to, knows what we mean.

You may be right I was not born on the island (both my parents were and also my wife) but do not love it any less than you do. I am also just as Turkish Cypriot as anyone else in the TRNC. What you seem to use as a cover up for your sins is the we are all Cypriots excuse so lets all live together and let the "Cypriots" rule...luckily enough for you 80% of the population will be GCs so you have no problem, we on the other havd do nto trust GCs due to their past relation and acts towards TCs. All we ask for is safeguards and heavy penalities in aunited Cyprus where we not be excluded from determining our own future in a way which isnot against our will. Why is this so difficult for GCs to understand.

Peoples emotions when returning to their towns is sincere but dont forget we choose to live thousands of miles away in other countries, we ar enow able to visit freely both sides of the island, its very unlikely there people will return to live in their old properties.

If anything it’s the Greek Cypriots that should be asking for “safeguards & heavy penalties” from our violent northern neighbor Turkey, which has already caused death & destruction against the people of this island numerous times but you seemingly have no care for that because it doesn’t affect you.

The Greek Cypriots should also be requesting “safeguards & heavy penalties” from the TC community because as we have seen in the past on many occasions it is easily led astray by Turkey and quick to behave disorderly and destructive.

In fact I fear the TC community more than I fear Turkey because at least if Turkey was on the attack and Cypriots were united it would be a clear case of defending one’s nation but when Turkish Cypriots are led astray and start defecting the constitution it invites outside forces in which destroys the whole island and the scenario becomes very difficult to resolve.

You seemingly fail to acknowledge how gullible and unreliable a very significant portion of the TC community can be making them a serious liability to the future of Cyprus as a whole. Cyprus cannot be peaceful and prosperous if one or more of her communities are forever having problems adjusting and requiring “special needs”.

If anything the TC community needs to choose life by first realizing that they can only be either Cypriot or Turkish and not some pseudo-TurkCyps in a manufactured “kingdom” on other Cypriot people’s stolen land because that is NOT on the negotiating table or in the interests of Cyprus as a whole.

[phoenix]

VP,

You are not a Cypriot! I just realised it from your response to the above post. You just don't understand the emotional burden of looking at a place which is the foundation of your personal history and yet it is no longer there. It has nothing to do with politics. The reason you dont understand is because you are not from Cyprus. Any Cypriot, no matter which community he belongs to, knows what we mean.

You may be right I was not born on the island (both my parents were and also my wife) but do not love it any less than you do. I am also just as Turkish Cypriot as anyone else in the TRNC. What you seem to use as a cover up for your sins is the we are all Cypriots excuse so lets all live together and let the "Cypriots" rule...luckily enough for you 80% of the population will be GCs so you have no problem, we on the other havd do nto trust GCs due to their past relation and acts towards TCs. All we ask for is safeguards and heavy penalities in aunited Cyprus where we not be excluded from determining our own future in a way which isnot against our will. Why is this so difficult for GCs to understand.

Peoples emotions when returning to their towns is sincere but dont forget we choose to live thousands of miles away in other countries, we ar enow able to visit freely both sides of the island, its very unlikely there people will return to live in their old properties.

If anything it’s the Greek Cypriots that should be asking for “safeguards & heavy penalties” from our violent northern neighbor Turkey, which has already caused death & destruction against the people of this island numerous times but you seemingly have no care for that because it doesn’t affect you.

The Greek Cypriots should also be requesting “safeguards & heavy penalties” from the TC community because as we have seen in the past on many occasions it is easily led astray by Turkey and quick to behave disorderly and destructive.

In fact I fear the TC community more than I fear Turkey because at least if Turkey was on the attack and Cypriots were united it would be a clear case of defending one’s nation but when Turkish Cypriots are led astray and start defecting the constitution it invites outside forces in which destroys the whole island and the scenario becomes very difficult to resolve.

You seemingly fail to acknowledge how gullible and unreliable a very significant portion of the TC community can be making them a serious liability to the future of Cyprus as a whole. Cyprus cannot be peaceful and prosperous if one or more of her communities are forever having problems adjusting and requiring “special needs”.

If anything the TC community needs to choose life by first realizing that they can only be either Cypriot or Turkish and not some pseudo-TurkCyps in a manufactured “kingdom” on other Cypriot people’s stolen land because that is NOT on the negotiating table or in the interests of Cyprus as a whole.

Very well put, Get Real!, my sentiments exactly . . . but with all the right words in the right order.

[zan]

VP,

You are not a Cypriot! I just realised it from your response to the above post. You just don't understand the emotional burden of looking at a place which is the foundation of your personal history and yet it is no longer there. It has nothing to do with politics. The reason you dont understand is because you are not from Cyprus. Any Cypriot, no matter which community he belongs to, knows what we mean.

You may be right I was not born on the island (both my parents were and also my wife) but do not love it any less than you do. I am also just as Turkish Cypriot as anyone else in the TRNC. What you seem to use as a cover up for your sins is the we are all Cypriots excuse so lets all live together and let the "Cypriots" rule...luckily enough for you 80% of the population will be GCs so you have no problem, we on the other havd do nto trust GCs due to their past relation and acts towards TCs. All we ask for is safeguards and heavy penalities in aunited Cyprus where we not be excluded from determining our own future in a way which isnot against our will. Why is this so difficult for GCs to understand.

Peoples emotions when returning to their towns is sincere but dont forget we choose to live thousands of miles away in other countries, we ar enow able to visit freely both sides of the island, its very unlikely there people will return to live in their old properties.

If anything it’s the Greek Cypriots that should be asking for “safeguards & heavy penalties” from our violent northern neighbor Turkey, which has already caused death & destruction against the people of this island numerous times but you seemingly have no care for that because it doesn’t affect you.

The Greek Cypriots should also be requesting “safeguards & heavy penalties” from the TC community because as we have seen in the past on many occasions it is easily led astray by Turkey and quick to behave disorderly and destructive.

In fact I fear the TC community more than I fear Turkey because at least if Turkey was on the attack and Cypriots were united it would be a clear case of defending one’s nation but when Turkish Cypriots are led astray and start defecting the constitution it invites outside forces in which destroys the whole island and the scenario becomes very difficult to resolve.

You seemingly fail to acknowledge how gullible and unreliable a very significant portion of the TC community can be making them a serious liability to the future of Cyprus as a whole. Cyprus cannot be peaceful and prosperous if one or more of her communities are forever having problems adjusting and requiring “special needs”.

If anything the TC community needs to choose life by first realizing that they can only be either Cypriot or Turkish and not some pseudo-TurkCyps in a manufactured “kingdom” on other Cypriot people’s stolen land because that is NOT on the negotiating table or in the interests of Cyprus as a whole.

And forcing them to be Greek at gun point is much more acceptable

We are Turkish Cypriots mate and proud of it...It will take more than you and your cronies to give that up.....There are some like Kikapu, that I am convinced, found that his coward ancestors changed religion at the drop of a hat to suit and he has now found out that he is in fact a Greek. The rest of us are made of sterner stuff.

[Kifeas]

And forcing them to be Greek at gun point is much more acceptable

We are Turkish Cypriots mate and proud of it...It will take more than you and your cronies to give that up.....There are some like Kikapu, that I am convinced, found that his coward ancestors changed religion at the drop of a hat to suit and he has now found out that he is in fact a Greek. The rest of us are made of sterner stuff.

Poor diluted schizoid fellow, by all accounts and measures and as it is noted in many neutral and notable historians’ research work, at least half of your community’s initial ancestors were Islamized (some of them previously Latinized) Cypriots! And no, they did not change religion "at the drop of a hat," but only to spare their heads from your hero Lala Mustafa’s “yatağan,” or to survive their families from the “haraç” of the ottoman Sultans!

Therefore, my schizoid fellow, chances are many of your own ancestors were also among those “cowards” that you describe above! The only difference between you and Kikapu is that his has the mental capacity to understand and accept the past and make sense out of it, whereas in your case you have chosen to become “more royalist than the king himself!” So hilarious you have become!

[Kifeas]

Fucking lowlife .

Better the tail of the dog, than the head of a donkey!

Better a lowlife, than a thickhead ...or a cheerleader (a majorette!)

If displaying loyalty is your definition of a cheerleader than I have nothing to say.

I offered this challenge to you before I'll happily offer it again. I measure someones IQ, intelligence, capabilities with their possessions, cars they drive and bank balance(Its a materialistic world we live in and I'm one hell of a materialistic c***). How about we play a game of winner takes all. You up for it kid?

Croesus to Solon:
Solon, you, a man renowned for your wisdom and a man that has seen the world and travelled far while seeking knowledge; with all this wealth of mine that I have just shown to you, can you tell me if you have ever seen a man more happy than me?

Solon to Croesus:
“Midena pro tou telous Makarize!” (“Bless no one for his fortune, before you see the end of his life!”)

Of course the story continues up to the point where Croesus was compelled to shout Solon’s name three times, when he came face to face with a very misfortunate end, but do not worry, I will not wish you will ever have to spell Kifea’s name, even once!

[denizaksulu]

Fucking lowlife .

Better the tail of the dog, than the head of a donkey!

Better a lowlife, than a thickhead ...or a cheerleader (a majorette!)

If displaying loyalty is your definition of a cheerleader than I have nothing to say.

I offered this challenge to you before I'll happily offer it again. I measure someones IQ, intelligence, capabilities with their possessions, cars they drive and bank balance(Its a materialistic world we live in and I'm one hell of a materialistic c***). How about we play a game of winner takes all. You up for it kid?

Croesus to Solon:
Solon, you, a man renowned for your wisdom and a man that has seen the world and travelled far while seeking knowledge; with all this wealth of mine that I have just shown to you, can you tell me if you have ever seen a man more happy than me?

Solon to Croesus:
“Midena pro tou telous Makarize!” (“Bless no one for his fortune, before you see the end of his life!”)

Of course the story continues up to the point where Croesus was compelled to shout Solon’s name three times, when he came face to face with a very misfortunate end, but do not worry, I will not wish you will ever have to spell Kifea’s name, even once!

Its all Greek to me

[zan]

And forcing them to be Greek at gun point is much more acceptable

We are Turkish Cypriots mate and proud of it...It will take more than you and your cronies to give that up.....There are some like Kikapu, that I am convinced, found that his coward ancestors changed religion at the drop of a hat to suit and he has now found out that he is in fact a Greek. The rest of us are made of sterner stuff.

Poor diluted schizoid fellow, by all accounts and measures and as it is noted in many neutral and notable historians’ research work, at least half of your community’s initial ancestors were Islamized (some of them previously Latinized) Cypriots! And no, they did not change religion "at the drop of a hat," but only to spare their heads from your hero Lala Mustafa’s “yata?an,” or to survive their families from the “haraç” of the ottoman Sultans!

Therefore, my schizoid fellow, chances are many of your own ancestors were also among those “cowards” that you describe above! The only difference between you and Kikapu is that his has the mental capacity to understand and accept the past and make sense out of it, whereas in your case you have chosen to become “more royalist than the king himself!” So hilarious you have become!

Why do I see this chap everytime I read your posts Kifeas???


I know the history of what happened in Cyprus and those that chop and change but the tradition is for those that want to get ahead financially and have no respect for who they really are and not the reasons you try to portray...They are no heroes. If Kikapu had some balls he would end the tradition and if he had even bigger balls he would stop trying to portray himself as a TC and show us his real colours.....He is a slimeball and behaving like one. It has got to the point where `I have no more time for him and his attacks....


There comes a time when you and your fictitious IQ has to be quantified as well......You are like many that can hold information and think that they are better thinkers for doing so....The Internet has all the answers to simple questions too and just like you not able to put all that information together to make sense of it. The Internet has made you look like a fool mate and you have done a better job than it!!!

[zan]

Fucking lowlife .

Better the tail of the dog, than the head of a donkey!

Better a lowlife, than a thickhead ...or a cheerleader (a majorette!)

If displaying loyalty is your definition of a cheerleader than I have nothing to say.

I offered this challenge to you before I'll happily offer it again. I measure someones IQ, intelligence, capabilities with their possessions, cars they drive and bank balance(Its a materialistic world we live in and I'm one hell of a materialistic c***). How about we play a game of winner takes all. You up for it kid?

Croesus to Solon:
Solon, you, a man renowned for your wisdom and a man that has seen the world and travelled far while seeking knowledge; with all this wealth of mine that I have just shown to you, can you tell me if you have ever seen a man more happy than me?

Solon to Croesus:
“Midena pro tou telous Makarize!” (“Bless no one for his fortune, before you see the end of his life!”)

Of course the story continues up to the point where Croesus was compelled to shout Solon’s name three times, when he came face to face with a very misfortunate end, but do not worry, I will not wish you will ever have to spell Kifea’s name, even once!

More stating of the obvious and a general lack of understanding