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Postby 74LB » Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:17 am

Birkibrisli wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"Nikitas its the same for many TCs they do not want to visit their old villages because they want to remember them as they were filled with all their memories and not as they are today, some will not even find their homes as they have been erased off the face of the earth."

Viewpoint wrote the above. Well I went past Peristerona and the Turkish houses there seemed shuttered but untouched. In my ancestral village my relatives tell me that half the houses were demolished, by TCs to prevent them being occupied by settlers from Turkey. I also drove past Mala and Kouklia, and the TC houses there were shut but still standing. In Lefkara I visited people living in houses belonging to TCs and they were kept in original condition, any repairs done must be approved and no one has the right to demolish houses.


Well...As some of you might be aware,I just visited my village in the ROC,Istinjo,in Paphos,after some 40 years...Very little is left standing,as I knew from photos...Mostly by time's cruel hand,and some by other cruel hands I suspect...I am very glad I did go,so that I have no illusion now how difficult the process of reconciliation and rehabilitation of our communities will be...The magical part of my "homecoming" was this: I was accompanied by 3 True Cypriots (One of Armenian,two of GC background) who supported me emotionally all the way..I felt that they felt strongly the pain that I felt seeing my village in ruins,and my family's land beyond my reach..Humanity is alive and well in Cyprus...WE just have to give it a chance to blossom,instead of trying to bury it...WE shall overcome,people...I have no doubt... :)



I'm happy for you Birkibrisli.
If only I could convince my father-in-law to visit his village as well.
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Postby kafenes » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:23 am

If only I could convince my father-in-law to visit his village as well.


Which village is that LondonBoy?
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Postby 74LB » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:05 am

kafenes wrote:
If only I could convince my father-in-law to visit his village as well.


Which village is that LondonBoy?


Same vilage Kafenes, Istinjo.
Don't you remember you sent me your pictures recently ?
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Postby Jerry » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:54 am

Nice reading about your trip to Cyprus Humanist and I'm happy for Birkibrisli, it must have been a very emotional visit after 40 years. Today my wife and I are moving house after 30 years and we are quite upset about it - but unlike thousands of Cypriots we do it from choice - no one is forcing us to go.

About the flashing flag, did you know that if you look carefully you can see it as your plane lands at Larnaca, it reminded me of a Coca Cola sign.
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Postby kafenes » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:23 am

'74LondonBoy wrote:
kafenes wrote:
If only I could convince my father-in-law to visit his village as well.


Which village is that LondonBoy?


Same vilage Kafenes, Istinjo.
Don't you remember you sent me your pictures recently ?


Thats right, sorry forgot about that.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:25 am

'74LondonBoy wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"Nikitas its the same for many TCs they do not want to visit their old villages because they want to remember them as they were filled with all their memories and not as they are today, some will not even find their homes as they have been erased off the face of the earth."

Viewpoint wrote the above. Well I went past Peristerona and the Turkish houses there seemed shuttered but untouched. In my ancestral village my relatives tell me that half the houses were demolished, by TCs to prevent them being occupied by settlers from Turkey. I also drove past Mala and Kouklia, and the TC houses there were shut but still standing. In Lefkara I visited people living in houses belonging to TCs and they were kept in original condition, any repairs done must be approved and no one has the right to demolish houses.


Well...As some of you might be aware,I just visited my village in the ROC,Istinjo,in Paphos,after some 40 years...Very little is left standing,as I knew from photos...Mostly by time's cruel hand,and some by other cruel hands I suspect...I am very glad I did go,so that I have no illusion now how difficult the process of reconciliation and rehabilitation of our communities will be...The magical part of my "homecoming" was this: I was accompanied by 3 True Cypriots (One of Armenian,two of GC background) who supported me emotionally all the way..I felt that they felt strongly the pain that I felt seeing my village in ruins,and my family's land beyond my reach..Humanity is alive and well in Cyprus...WE just have to give it a chance to blossom,instead of trying to bury it...WE shall overcome,people...I have no doubt... :)



I'm happy for you Birkibrisli.
If only I could convince my father-in-law to visit his village as well.


Hello,Londonboy...Please tell your father-in-law that although the people,the houses and fields are no longer there,there is an amazing sense of peace and spirituality in our beloved Istinjo..I feel totally refreshed and recharged by my visit...It is good to be where you truly belong...Even for a short time..
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:33 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
Nikitas wrote:"Nikitas its the same for many TCs they do not want to visit their old villages because they want to remember them as they were filled with all their memories and not as they are today, some will not even find their homes as they have been erased off the face of the earth."

Viewpoint wrote the above. Well I went past Peristerona and the Turkish houses there seemed shuttered but untouched. In my ancestral village my relatives tell me that half the houses were demolished, by TCs to prevent them being occupied by settlers from Turkey. I also drove past Mala and Kouklia, and the TC houses there were shut but still standing. In Lefkara I visited people living in houses belonging to TCs and they were kept in original condition, any repairs done must be approved and no one has the right to demolish houses.


Well...As some of you might be aware,I just visited my village in the ROC,Istinjo,in Paphos,after some 40 years...Very little is left standing,as I knew from photos...Mostly by time's cruel hand,and some by other cruel hands I suspect...I am very glad I did go,so that I have no illusion now how difficult the process of reconciliation and rehabilitation of our communities will be...The magical part of my "homecoming" was this: I was accompanied by 3 True Cypriots (One of Armenian,two of GC background) who supported me emotionally all the way..I felt that they felt strongly the pain that I felt seeing my village in ruins,and my family's land beyond my reach..Humanity is alive and well in Cyprus...WE just have to give it a chance to blossom,instead of trying to bury it...WE shall overcome,people...I have no doubt... :)



Merhaba Yegen,
I agree with everything you say. Most hurtful are those that are trying very hard to put a distance between both sides of the communities (not forgotting our Armenian and Maronite brothers).

Homes are ,ade of 'bricks and mortar', they can be rebuilt. Whatabout human faith? More difficult but can be achieved with Cypriot determination.

Regards

Yenge hanima selamlar ve de iyi dileklerim.

Deniz


Selamlar Deniz yegenim...yes,the walls that truly need to come down are the ones in our heads and hearts...They are very easy to put up and almost impossible to tear down..Especially when there are some people dedicated to reinforcing them daily...But humanity is very resilient.Hatred and fear might be strong,but they are no match to love and compassion in the long run...We shall overcome... :)

Yenge hanim da sana selam ve sevgilerini iletiyor,sevgili Deniz...
Saglicakla kal.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:36 am

kafenes wrote:
'74LondonBoy wrote:
kafenes wrote:
If only I could convince my father-in-law to visit his village as well.


Which village is that LondonBoy?


Same vilage Kafenes, Istinjo.
Don't you remember you sent me your pictures recently ?


Thats right, sorry forgot about that.


Seeing you are online,let me take this opportunity to salute you,my True Cypriot friend...You are a big man with a big heart...I am proud to know you...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:41 am

Nikitas wrote:Bir,

Welcome back, we missed you.

Andrea

Good trip back home.


Thank you,dear Nikitas...But I am not fully back yet. Just recuperating in your beautiful country of choice ,for a few more weeks...You will hear more about my Cyprus trip when I get back to Oz...Cheers.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:46 am

Jerry wrote:Nice reading about your trip to Cyprus Humanist and I'm happy for Birkibrisli, it must have been a very emotional visit after 40 years. Today my wife and I are moving house after 30 years and we are quite upset about it - but unlike thousands of Cypriots we do it from choice - no one is forcing us to go.

About the flashing flag, did you know that if you look carefully you can see it as your plane lands at Larnaca, it reminded me of a Coca Cola sign.


Thank you for your kind sentiments,Jerry...

The thing I noticed about the flashing flag is that noone who lives in Cyprus permanently takes any notice of it... 8)
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