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Postby Get Real! » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:36 pm

Good evening boys and girls.

What on earth is the topic here? :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:37 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:Which part of Greek mythology tells of wars fought with feather dusters and baskets full of roses then.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Hey hey that's Turkish mythology man. Remember the 1974 peace invasion? :P :P :P :P


There you go again.....It was a peace operation and it brought us peace since. I think there mmight have been an incident round about that time.........Distinguish between the two...


But that's what I said Zany. It was a peace invasion with rose water and futher dusters like the one you talked about. :P :P :P :P
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Postby zan » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:39 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Oh the Turks fought in World war? that's news to me.


I meant the Ottomans.


That's news to me too T_C. :wink:



Really....One minute you say they were killing everyone and then you are surprised........The world verses the Ottomans....I think I saw that film...


thank you Zanny for confirming us that exterminating armless Armenians in a GENOCIDE manner, was the only participation Turkey... erm woops the Ottomans had in World war.



I think it was the world that came to our door Pyro as in Gallipoli.
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:11 pm

zan wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
zan wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
T_C wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Oh the Turks fought in World war? that's news to me.


I meant the Ottomans.


That's news to me too T_C. :wink:



Really....One minute you say they were killing everyone and then you are surprised........The world verses the Ottomans....I think I saw that film...


thank you Zanny for confirming us that exterminating armless Armenians in a GENOCIDE manner, was the only participation Turkey... erm woops the Ottomans had in World war.



I think it was the world that came to our door Pyro as in Gallipoli.


Gallipoli!!!perfect Turkish name!!!!! You may be mixed up the doors, there is an other one beyond Ankara, may be this was yours not the one in Kallipoli!!!!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:18 pm

These people have absolutely no clue what so ever, they are desperately in need to throw at us whatever they can get their hands on and it doesn't even matter anymore whether its true or not...

Yes we were in the World War allies of Germany, in fact 1 of the only 2 survivors from the time died recently and the other one is still alive over 100 years old. The Armenians were anything but armless, they were very systematically backed up by the Soviets and the French along with the Kurds to rebel against the Ottomans in order to bring down the empire and doing so massacred hundreds of Turkish villages without discrimination.

All this took place during a time where the Turks were trying to fight against an agreement that was going to leave us with fuck all and give the people like the Greeks, the British and the French everything they wanted, in fact the plan was to leave the Turks with some land right in the center of the country while the surrounded land was being shared.

THIS was the situation Turkey was in at the time and Turkey had to fight for her independence as everyone does, and this is the situation that has to be examined very carefully and objectively before anyone is blamed for genocide, and THATS probably why no one is allowed to question the events!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:19 pm

EPSILON wrote:
zan wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
zan wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
T_C wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Oh the Turks fought in World war? that's news to me.


I meant the Ottomans.


That's news to me too T_C. :wink:



Really....One minute you say they were killing everyone and then you are surprised........The world verses the Ottomans....I think I saw that film...


thank you Zanny for confirming us that exterminating armless Armenians in a GENOCIDE manner, was the only participation Turkey... erm woops the Ottomans had in World war.



I think it was the world that came to our door Pyro as in Gallipoli.


Gallipoli!!!perfect Turkish name!!!!! You may be mixed up the doors, there is an other one beyond Ankara, may be this was yours not the one in Kallipoli!!!!


Oh here we go again, everything is Greek so they must get it all back :roll:
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:22 pm

shahmaran wrote:These people have absolutely no clue what so ever, they are desperately in need to throw at us whatever they can get their hands on and it doesn't even matter anymore whether its true or not...

Yes we were in the World War allies of Germany, in fact 1 of the only 2 survivors from the time died recently and the other one is still alive over 100 years old. The Armenians were anything but armless, they were very systematically backed up by the Soviets and the French along with the Kurds to rebel against the Ottomans in order to bring down the empire and doing so massacred hundreds of Turkish villages without discrimination.

All this took place during a time where the Turks were trying to fight against an agreement that was going to leave us with fuck all and give the people like the Greeks, the British and the French everything they wanted, in fact the plan was to leave the Turks

with some land right in the center of the country while the surrounded land was being shared.

THIS was the situation Turkey was in at the time and Turkey had to fight for her independence as everyone does, and this is the situation that has to be examined very carefully and objectively before anyone is blamed for genocide, and THATS probably why no one is allowed to question the events!


Are your sources proving also that the unarmed women, the childs of 1-2-3 years old , the old Armenian men, all these people who had been killed by the Ottomans, were a threat for the empire?

Either you are living in a word of darkness or you try to prove that these people were fighting the Ottomans and herefore they were just victims of the battle.
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Postby zan » Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:25 pm

EPSILON wrote:
shahmaran wrote:These people have absolutely no clue what so ever, they are desperately in need to throw at us whatever they can get their hands on and it doesn't even matter anymore whether its true or not...

Yes we were in the World War allies of Germany, in fact 1 of the only 2 survivors from the time died recently and the other one is still alive over 100 years old. The Armenians were anything but armless, they were very systematically backed up by the Soviets and the French along with the Kurds to rebel against the Ottomans in order to bring down the empire and doing so massacred hundreds of Turkish villages without discrimination.

All this took place during a time where the Turks were trying to fight against an agreement that was going to leave us with fuck all and give the people like the Greeks, the British and the French everything they wanted, in fact the plan was to leave the Turks

with some land right in the center of the country while the surrounded land was being shared.

THIS was the situation Turkey was in at the time and Turkey had to fight for her independence as everyone does, and this is the situation that has to be examined very carefully and objectively before anyone is blamed for genocide, and THATS probably why no one is allowed to question the events!


Are your sources proving also that the unarmed women, the childs of 1-2-3 years old , the old Armenian men, all these people who had been killed by the Ottomans, were a threat for the empire?

Either you are living in a word of darkness or you try to prove that these people were fighting the Ottomans and herefore they were just victims of the battle.


Many were killede by Kurds the age old enemies of the Armenians.....Open the files sso numbers can be sorted out....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:20 pm

Yeah open the damn box files.

Btw as you all know we have an Armenian minority here in Cyprus. Could you please inform me when exactly they came in Cyprus.Was it during the Venetians, was it in 1571, was it in 1878 with the British, was it in 1960 with the Zurich agreements, I am a bit puzzled.
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:24 am

Zan you are correct about the Kurds they were also culprits. That is why Soviet Armenia didnt assist the Kurdish rupublic of Ararat in 1927. Kurds that are not Yezidis have been treated with contemt by the Average Armenian citizen. They are viewed as Turcophiles which is really not the case but they are viewed like that. During the war with Azebijan there were 35,000 Yezidis and 25,000 muslim Kurds. Today there are only 5,000 muslim Kurds left with just 1 mosque which is in shambles and the mufti isnt allowed to call his faithfull to prayer.. The PKK and other Kurdish groups have apologiesed for the Kurdish responibilty, yet it is viewed as apoligising to try to gain some kind of assistants from us. I for one believe the Kurds made there own bed and Armenia owns them nothing. Yes I accept there apology, but I dont trust them. Do I feel bad for the Kurdish muslim in Armenia?? Sure, I am sure being a crypto- muslim is difficult.
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