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Postby cymart » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:46 pm

Recognising the genocide will not bring those people back again,any more than we can bring back the Greek and Turkish Cypriots who have been killed here since the 1960's when the troubles began.But we do desperately need a truth commission like they had in South Africa,so we can all learn to forgive and forget the past and also let the mistakes we all made remind us to never repeat them!There is no other way and anyone who cannot do this would be better off leaving Cyprus and taking their bitterness with them so at least the new generation can have a chance of building a decent life!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:48 pm

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shahmaran wrote:No one is denying the fact that people have died, it just doesn't make it GENOCIDE when j*******s like yourself blabber on about it on the Internet with absolutely no real evidence at hand what so ever, this is not justice Mr. Comedian!

This is why it has to be researched by HISTORIANS and not used like a weapon by bunch of politicians who need material to bargain with in order to pursue whatever twisted agenda they had in the first place, i mean doesn't anyone really care about the truth?

ps. all the countries which have a problem with Turkey are the same ones we were at war with not that long ago so i do not see any problem there, after all they all lost and Turkey has emerged when no one around her wanted her to ;)


The evidence is held by those who survived the holocaust Shah. And it is CONVINCING. It was a GENOCIDE by all standards. Go to some Armenian Web sites and see it yourself.

NB. It's funny Turkey wants to have HISTORIANS look at the case. Perhaps we should call HISTORIANS in Cyprus too!! And archives and all that nonsense.


Right thats it, NONSENSE, the 1000 year old Empires archives that is, because you and some Armenians say so, thats just nothing but laughable, you can find just as many Turkish survivors who can tell you about the Armenians massacres in that area, what are you going to call them NONSENSE too? Maybe fabricated Turkish lies because thats what we are aren't we, untrustworthy liars? I suggest you stop, whatever it is that you are smoking and get a grip :lol:

And about Cyprus, yes perhaps you should, maybe someone has archived how life was before 1974 and since...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:52 pm

shahmaran wrote:Sure Nikitas, if you knew anything about Turkish history you would have a much different approach to the situation...

Turkey is and has been offering their archives and requesting joined comities to be set up between the Turks and the Armenian historians to sort it out for a VERY long time, but its the Armenians that are so against the questioning of the events which is ridiculous...


I would be against too knowing before hand the archives are not going to prove anything, because guess what, they ARE EMPTY.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:57 pm

No one is denying the fact that people have died, it just doesn't make it GENOCIDE when jerkoffs like yourself blabber on about it on the Internet with absolutely no real evidence at hand what so ever, this is not justice Mr. Comedian!

the US did among other countries...maybe you should be asking them...I am just the joyful messenger...hip hip horay...

and how do you know they have no evidence?...were you part of their meetings or something congresmman shahmaran?...why not post in this thread the discussions you had with them if you have evidence...I have more faith in them than what I have of you and your damn archives...like asking a rapist and a murder to testify on behalf of the victim...yeah turkish justice...

oh they got evidence mister...the only anti today in the US was about ruining a relationship and not about the evidence...they already got the evidence...no one in the US denied this...well with the exeption of congressman shahmaran :lol: what a bozo...:lol:

so 1.5 does not make a genocide but you are screaming all over the forum that the tcs were genocided...and you call me a mr comedian...hahahaha

do you know how many countries recognize it as a genocide?...well maybe they should invite you to show them some proof congressman...make sure you wear your bozo the clown suit when they call you for the presentation... :lol:

This is why it has to be researched by HISTORIANS and not used like a weapon by bunch of politicians who need material to bargain with in order to pursue whatever twisted agenda they had in the first place, i mean doesn't anyone really care about the truth?

yeah lets wait until everyone is gone so you can argue some more and waste another 100 years...who do you think drove all these people in the desert smart ass?...you think they wanted to experience the peduin way of life without food, water and no damn camels?...bodies littered everywhere... get real... :lol: another classic responce from the congressman :lol:

ps. all the countries which have a problem with Turkey are the same ones we were at war with not that long ago so i do not see any problem there, after all they all lost and Turkey has emerged when no one around her wanted her to


emerged...thats a funny word...lets look how she emerged...everyone evolved around turkey while she stagnated with an outdated doctrine...look at the standard of living for further proof...stone age comes to mind...you wanna see some pictures?...nice emerging...a nation scared of its own shadow...now if I was to show you a headscarf what would feel?...help help where is my therapist I hear you yelling... :lol:

today is a happy day for me and nothing you can say will spoil it...a sweet victory for the victims and our turn is next..

tick tock tick tock
it took 100 years
tick tock tick tock
we are prepared to wait 100 years

gee whiz is that a poem?... :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:57 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
shahmaran wrote:No one is denying the fact that people have died, it just doesn't make it GENOCIDE when j*******s like yourself blabber on about it on the Internet with absolutely no real evidence at hand what so ever, this is not justice Mr. Comedian!

This is why it has to be researched by HISTORIANS and not used like a weapon by bunch of politicians who need material to bargain with in order to pursue whatever twisted agenda they had in the first place, i mean doesn't anyone really care about the truth?

ps. all the countries which have a problem with Turkey are the same ones we were at war with not that long ago so i do not see any problem there, after all they all lost and Turkey has emerged when no one around her wanted her to ;)


The evidence is held by those who survived the holocaust Shah. And it is CONVINCING. It was a GENOCIDE by all standards. Go to some Armenian Web sites and see it yourself.

NB. It's funny Turkey wants to have HISTORIANS look at the case. Perhaps we should call HISTORIANS in Cyprus too!! And archives and all that nonsense.


Right thats it, NONSENSE, the 1000 year old Empires archives that is, because you and some Armenians say so, thats just nothing but laughable, you can find just as many Turkish survivors who can tell you about the Armenians massacres in that area, what are you going to call them NONSENSE too? Maybe fabricated Turkish lies because thats what we are aren't we, untrustworthy liars? I suggest you stop, whatever it is that you are smoking and get a grip :lol:

And about Cyprus, yes perhaps you should, maybe someone has archived how life was before 1974 and since...


1)My apologies Shah. I am so ignorant in history that never knew the Armenians were slaughtered 1000 years ago.

2)Would you accept opening our archieves as the FINAL evidence to settle the dispute then? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:






































Expected answer: NOooooooooooo!
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:00 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Sure Nikitas, if you knew anything about Turkish history you would have a much different approach to the situation...

Turkey is and has been offering their archives and requesting joined comities to be set up between the Turks and the Armenian historians to sort it out for a VERY long time, but its the Armenians that are so against the questioning of the events which is ridiculous...


I would be against too knowing before hand the archives are not going to prove anything, because guess what, they ARE EMPTY.



LOL yes you would know, because? What, have you actually seen them, or read anything about them?

Lets just play in your imaginary little world for a while and accept that the Ottoman archives are "empty", so now you tell me, why don't the Armenians allow the Turkish reporters there, access to their archives and why is it illegal to question the genocide in Armenia?
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:07 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Sure Nikitas, if you knew anything about Turkish history you would have a much different approach to the situation...

Turkey is and has been offering their archives and requesting joined comities to be set up between the Turks and the Armenian historians to sort it out for a VERY long time, but its the Armenians that are so against the questioning of the events which is ridiculous...


I would be against too knowing before hand the archives are not going to prove anything, because guess what, they ARE EMPTY.



LOL yes you would know, because? What, have you actually seen them, or read anything about them?

Lets just play in your imaginary little world for a while and accept that the Ottoman archives are "empty", so now you tell me, why don't the Armenians allow the Turkish reporters there, access to their archives and why is it illegal to question the genocide in Armenia?



I got better one...why doesn't turkey allow freedom of discussion in her own bloody country to take place before she insists what goes on in other countries...why...why...why...is it because you get imprisoned and shot on sight?...if the there is no discussion in your own home how do you expect anyone to take you seriuously?...you are a big joke simple as that...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:17 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Sure Nikitas, if you knew anything about Turkish history you would have a much different approach to the situation...

Turkey is and has been offering their archives and requesting joined comities to be set up between the Turks and the Armenian historians to sort it out for a VERY long time, but its the Armenians that are so against the questioning of the events which is ridiculous...


I would be against too knowing before hand the archives are not going to prove anything, because guess what, they ARE EMPTY.



LOL yes you would know, because? What, have you actually seen them, or read anything about them?

Lets just play in your imaginary little world for a while and accept that the Ottoman archives are "empty", so now you tell me, why don't the Armenians allow the Turkish reporters there, access to their archives and why is it illegal to question the genocide in Armenia?


I answered you this question in the past. It is illegal for the same reason it is ILLEGAL to deny the Jewish holocaust. It is a direct insult, and too much to digest, for those STILL LIVING who saw their whole families exterminated. That's why. 8)

Jeez it's illegal even in France...
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:21 pm

boomerang wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Sure Nikitas, if you knew anything about Turkish history you would have a much different approach to the situation...

Turkey is and has been offering their archives and requesting joined comities to be set up between the Turks and the Armenian historians to sort it out for a VERY long time, but its the Armenians that are so against the questioning of the events which is ridiculous...


I would be against too knowing before hand the archives are not going to prove anything, because guess what, they ARE EMPTY.



LOL yes you would know, because? What, have you actually seen them, or read anything about them?

Lets just play in your imaginary little world for a while and accept that the Ottoman archives are "empty", so now you tell me, why don't the Armenians allow the Turkish reporters there, access to their archives and why is it illegal to question the genocide in Armenia?



I got better one...why doesn't turkey allow freedom of discussion in her own bloody country to take place before she insists what goes on in other countries...why...why...why...is it because you get imprisoned and shot on sight?...if the there is no discussion in your own home how do you expect anyone to take you seriuously?...you are a big joke simple as that...


You don't have Hran Dick in mind Boomerang, do you? :wink:
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Postby zan » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:24 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
shahmaran wrote:No one is denying the fact that people have died, it just doesn't make it GENOCIDE when j*******s like yourself blabber on about it on the Internet with absolutely no real evidence at hand what so ever, this is not justice Mr. Comedian!

This is why it has to be researched by HISTORIANS and not used like a weapon by bunch of politicians who need material to bargain with in order to pursue whatever twisted agenda they had in the first place, i mean doesn't anyone really care about the truth?

ps. all the countries which have a problem with Turkey are the same ones we were at war with not that long ago so i do not see any problem there, after all they all lost and Turkey has emerged when no one around her wanted her to ;)


The evidence is held by those who survived the holocaust Shah. And it is CONVINCING. It was a GENOCIDE by all standards. Go to some Armenian Web sites and see it yourself.

NB. It's funny Turkey wants to have HISTORIANS look at the case. Perhaps we should call HISTORIANS in Cyprus too!! And archives and all that nonsense.


And these guys deny what we say about them killing us....Talk about double standards....Take the word of anyone that slates thee Turks but we are liars....If it was any more obvious it would have a sign on it.... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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