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[T_C]

And I'm not saying that Armenians weren't massacared but even if 600.000 people were killed thats still a hell of a lot of people! And if you were to see even just 100.000 being killed would that not look (to you) like EVERYONE was killed?

Theres old TCs in Cyprus who say they (GCs) killed pretty much "EVERYONE"....does that mean they really did?

[miltiades]

Who are these bastards you are refering too??? Why did the Germans wipe out the Jews after living with them for 500 years??? Can you say scapegoat???

The Germans didn't wipe out the Jews, the Nazi's did you racist baboon, plus who the hell are you to compare us with the Nazi's anyways?

No one is comparing the T/Cs to the Nazis mate , they are talking about Turkey , I thought you said you were a Turkish Cypriot , apparently not.

[shahmaran]

Sure i am! Who are you to judge my Cypriotness?

[Pyrpolizer]

@ T_C

Well the Armenians say there were 3 million in Ottoman Empire...

But even if we accept your figure that only 600,000 Armenians were killed does that make it less of a genocide?It is still a genocide by all standards.

Yes the fact is I am convinced there was an Armenian Genocide, MAINLY BECAUSE all the Turkish apologists say that the number of Killed Armenian it was not 1.5 million but 600,000! For me the numbers game is no longer valid, what remains valid is the fact there was indeed a genocide.

[Pyrpolizer]

I don't know Pyro but how can it be 1.5 million when there wasn't even 1.5 million Armenians in Ottoman Turkey to begin with? All the census' of those times state this....Not just the Turkish but the British, the French etc etc...

Where did they all appear from?

Listen mate if you want to find out about something, but have made your mind up already then there is no point in trying since you've already come to a conclusion...When you're trying to find out what happened you are looking for things to support your own viewpoint, that you have made before you even looked, so you'll obviously find things that support that viewpoint to justify your stance.

I don't see no point in trying to discuss this issue on the Cyprus-Forum....

Well it ll started with the news the the US parliament recognised it, with some rather vague link to the Cyprus problem.
You are right though we got stuck in the Armenian issue as such.
I would expect the 2 Armenian Cypriots of the forum to say something, one of the 2 just wrote nothing, and the other just cursed everybody without discussing anything, so I am out of this....

[T_C]

I agree with you Pyro! I think it's a disgrace what happened!

But I can't condemn Turkey without speaking up about the obvious propaganda from the Armenians at the same time...3 million Muslims also died in Ottoman Turkey at the same time the Armenians did. What about them? Anyone crying over them? I doubt it....

Before we come to conclusions we need people to research the events on a professional level simply because Turkey says otherwise and since she does then we can't just jump to conclusions.

What if people judged the GCs without a fair trial? Specially on the Cyprus issue, considering your viewpoint is the complete opposite of ours. No matter how much people think they "know" the Turks, you still can't sentence them without a trial.

Like I said I'm more on the fence I just want a second opinion from the historians...NOT because I doubt what happened but so I can get a better picture. Since Turkey has her own version of events I'm very eager to hear what the historians will say.

This would be my opinion even if it was students going to research it! I just want a new initiative into finding out what happened....because all we've heard so far is one story from Turks and the other from the Armenians...the 2 parties involved. It would be very interesting to hear what the "outsiders" would say once they look into it....THEN I'll come to my conclusion...

[Get Real!]

It’s all relative really…

If they’re killing YOUR people a mere 500 will do to call it a “Genocide” but if you’re killing THEIR people then you’re allowed to kill up to 20-30 million before it can be classified as a ”genocide”!

[phoenix]

IBut I can't condemn Turkey without speaking up about the obvious propaganda from the Armenians at the same time...3 million Muslims also died in Ottoman Turkey at the same time the Armenians did. What about them? Anyone crying over them? I doubt it....

Many of the Muslims were Arabs and mostly killed by the Ottomans too!

[T_C]

It’s all relative really…

If they’re killing YOUR people a mere 500 will do to call it a “Genocide” but if you’re killing THEIR people then you’re allowed to kill up to 20-30 million before it can be classified as a ”genocide”!

Don't be so shamless! I was the one telling Eric Dayi that what GCs did to us DIDN'T amount to genocide so don't generalise the whole thing according to what some TCs say!

[T_C]

If someone has genocided you then you should have no reason to LIE!

If you lie in order for people to accept it as genocide then it raises questions.