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[boomerang]

always someone else fault isn't zan?...never the turks fault...

[zan]

always someone else fault isn't zan?...never the turks fault...

Not what I said Boomers Besides someone has to redress the balance of your "always blame the Turks" attitude...

[tessintrnc]

Quite right Zan. Boomerang, how can the modern government of Turkey can be responsible for what happened in the OTTOMAN era? And why don't the Armenians open up their archives? With foreign aid in the form of weapons - they did a fair bit of killing you know!!! Whole villages massacred and buried in mass graves , sound familiar??? Don't be so blind in hatred!!

[shahmaran]

Armenians didn't do it alone, however you do not hear a single word from all those who aided them back in the day, it is absolutely sickening that the deaths of so many people has been turned into some kind of an ammunition for international politics, where the search for the truth has become obsolete, what is important now is how these genocide merchants can manipulate these events for the benefit of their own agendas with no question asking allowed, and even Armenia is included in this and its their own people!! And on top of this all people actually have the audacity to judge the Turks?

[Nikitas]

So the Armenians will not open their archives. If opening the Turkish archives will solve the question why not do that and forget the Armenians.

As for the division between Turkish and Ottoman it seems a matter to be remembered whenever it suits Turkish aims.. By that analogy the only things that bind Turkey are those that happened after 1923. But Cyprus is Turkish becaue it had been conqurered by the Ottoman empire. This kind of lobsided thinking has landed Turkey in the situation it is in today- Armenian problem, Kurdish problem, in fact problems with every single neighboring state. All the neighbors are wrong but Turks are right? Does not sound very plausible does it.

[shahmaran]

Sure Nikitas, if you knew anything about Turkish history you would have a much different approach to the situation...

Turkey is and has been offering their archives and requesting joined comities to be set up between the Turks and the Armenian historians to sort it out for a VERY long time, but its the Armenians that are so against the questioning of the events which is ridiculous...

[Nikitas]

So why not offer half the evidence if that would change the view on Turkey's role? So far the foreign sources, like the American ambassador's reports at the time will need a lot of evidence to overturn. The question is a simple one- was there a state run campaign to exterminate civilians or not. Were any army personnel tried for exceeding their orders? Simple things like that would do.

[boomerang]

turks in turkey be aware...you muthycal bullshit is coming to an end...as of this moment you in the same category as hitler...the same hitler that took your example to the nth degree and no amount of wriggling is gonna free you of the ethnic cleansing dogma...
but you can carry on trying to convince us otherwise

good luck

if I was you I would get down and start praying

@nikitas
they reason they ain't doing it is because they are not trustworthy...just look at the false figures they are publishing as to how many tcs died in cyprus...what are we upto now 15,000 dead tcs or is it 20,000 dead tcs...look at the atca webside...would you trust them?...not in a million years...

this forum is a testament of this...like their claim they have been restricted to the island in enclaves of 3%...

I am still waiting for zan to show me the tc map of this elusive 3%...all I see is run run forrest run...

what?...you say you want another example of ethnic cleansing...look around the RoC...prleeeeeeeeeeeeeenty of examples...how many Cypriots live in the North today and then compare it to '74...has anyone in this forum actually disputed these figures...NO

look at istambul...how many greeks live there...compare them to before '55...or lets look at the 1955 pogrom...

look at tenedos...how many greeks there...

look at what the kurds suffered at their hands...

hey I am beggining to see a pattern here...

you get my drift?

[shahmaran]

Oh you pooor pooor innocent souls, what has these evil Turks have done to you!!

Of course no thanks to the British that actually made you lot sit on our laps like a bunch of girls, but yes blame it on the Turks, its always handy

Now we are even fabricating Ottoman archives, anything that works really isnt it

[DT.]

the thruth is that this decision by the foreignaffairs committee has been titled as Turkey-US tension on the news channels. This isn't going to go well for those relations and Boomers might be right that the US will have other options in the area for their strategic alliances that may be a lot cheaper than siding ith turkey.