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[zan]

DT those people are totally unable to understand what will happen if GCs lose all hope. They will only understand it when they see it with their own eyes. Alas however, it will then be too late. They think we are begging them to have "unification". Let them think anyway they like...

I f all else fails ...Use threats DT! Want to say anything to this man????

[boomerang]

among all these off topic posts I have a question for the tcs...

in the Roc we have a variety of people with different beliefs...Some feel Cypriot and want to be seen as such and ohers want to be seen as Greeks...What their beliefs are, are not important, but my question is, is there such divide between the tcs?...is there tcs in the occupied that feel turks and others feel Cypriots?

Can a TC answewr me?

[zan]

among all these off topic posts I have a question for the tcs...

in the Roc we have a variety of people with different beliefs...Some feel Cypriot and want to be seen as such and ohers want to be seen as Greeks...What their beliefs are, are not important, but my question is, is there such divide between the tcs?...is there tcs in the occupied that feel turks and others feel Cypriots?

Can a TC answewr me?

Without doubt but not along those simple lines........We are Turkish Cypriots...

[boomerang]

Thats not what I asked...you didn't answer my question...I am not judging, just asking...

[zan]

Thats not what I asked...you didn't answer my question...I am not judging, just asking...

I thought I ansered mate...You might need to be more specific...Are you talking along ethnic lines or political or what???

[alexISS]

DT those people are totally unable to understand what will happen if GCs lose all hope. They will only understand it when they see it with their own eyes. Alas however, it will then be too late. They think we are begging them to have "unification". Let them think anyway they like...

I f all else fails ...Use threats DT! Want to say anything to this man????

I don't think Pyrpolizer's post is a threat. Actually the thing you will regret in the future is the thing you pursue now: permanent partition. Turkey does her best to promote the "TRNC" as an independent state because she wants the world to aknowledge the separation that her "peace operation" brought. When that separation becomes legal, there will be no reason for Turkey to sustain an autonomous state in Cyprus, you will become a Turkish province in no time and you'll stop being Turkish Cypriots; you'll be "plain" Turks.

I know you'll either reply to this by saying that becoming a Turkish province is actually a good thing or that Turkey will never do that to you, but it's the only road for Turkey, especially since her EU aspirations will be long gone by then

[boomerang]

Thats not what I asked...you didn't answer my question...I am not judging, just asking...

I thought I ansered mate...You might need to be more specific...Are you talking along ethnic lines or political or what???

Look zan I am Cypriot period...I do not identify with Greeks at all...Never have never will...I speak greek, I eat similar food, same religion, but still I have a problem identifying myself as a greek...

Is there such people amongst tcs?

[zan]

DT those people are totally unable to understand what will happen if GCs lose all hope. They will only understand it when they see it with their own eyes. Alas however, it will then be too late. They think we are begging them to have "unification". Let them think anyway they like...

I f all else fails ...Use threats DT! Want to say anything to this man????

I don't think Pyrpolizer's post is a threat. Actually the thing you will regret in the future is the thing you pursue now: permanent partition. Turkey does her best to promote the "TRNC" as an independent state because she wants the world to aknowledge the separation that her "peace operation" brought. When that separation becomes legal, there will be no reason for Turkey to sustain an autonomous state in Cyprus, you will become a Turkish province in no time and you'll stop being Turkish Cypriots; you'll be "plain" Turks.

I know you'll either reply to this by saying that becoming a Turkish province is actually a good thing or that Turkey will never do that to you, but it's the only road for Turkey, especially since her EU aspirations will be long gone by then

I can understand what you are saying if we take the last half of your final sentence as a given alexISS but I think you are being a little premature on that one. You have to understand that the antics of the first president of our first ever republic destroyed that feeling of total Cypriotness with his plans along the line of the Akritas Plan......We have nothing left to relate to as far as the "RoC" is concerned. We relate to the part we were forced into. Yes, I am afraid we were forced.

[alexISS]

I can understand what you are saying if we take the last half of your final sentence as a given alexISS but I think you are being a little premature on that one. You have to understand that the antics of the first president of our first ever republic destroyed that feeling of total Cypriotness with his plans along the line of the Akritas Plan......We have nothing left to relate to as far as the "RoC" is concerned. We relate to the part we were forced into. Yes, I am afraid we were forced.

Personally I do not believe or find necessary that TCs and GCs should erase their ethnic background and be plain Cypriots, it's impossible and it won't help end the Cyprus problem. TCs are partly Turkish, partly Cypriot. GCs are partly Greek, partly Cypriot. The thing that unites the two, whether you like it or not, is the Cypriot part. Repeating the other side's past mistakes is not fruitful, you can go on about how much damage Makarios has done and GCs can do the same about Denktash or others before him. What I'm saying is that for the TC community the future is brighter in a united Cyprus than in a Turkish province or a Turkish client state. That's all

[zan]

I can understand what you are saying if we take the last half of your final sentence as a given alexISS but I think you are being a little premature on that one. You have to understand that the antics of the first president of our first ever republic destroyed that feeling of total Cypriotness with his plans along the line of the Akritas Plan......We have nothing left to relate to as far as the "RoC" is concerned. We relate to the part we were forced into. Yes, I am afraid we were forced.

Personally I do not believe or find necessary that TCs and GCs should erase their ethnic background and be plain Cypriots, it's impossible and it won't help end the Cyprus problem. TCs are partly Turkish, partly Cypriot. GCs are partly Greek, partly Cypriot. The thing that unites the two, whether you like it or not, is the Cypriot part. Repeating the other side's past mistakes is not fruitful, you can go on about how much damage Makarios has done and GCs can do the same about Denktash or others before him. What I'm saying is that for the TC community the future is brighter in a united Cyprus than in a Turkish province or a Turkish client state. That's all

In that "perfect world" scenario alexISS, I can only agree with you but Cyprus is far from perfect and the "RoC" less so. That is why the Zurich agreement was drafted and then many versions of the Annan Plan. Dreams can only be achieved through practical and realistic means.