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Postby unnamedman » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:00 pm

magikthrill wrote:
unnamedman wrote:then, i'll draw your prime minister as a gay .......................... by own soldiers!

Don't panic, it'll be cartoon.


LoL.

Go for it! While you're at it draw Bush as gay too by his own soldiers (Whatever that means).

I am looking forward to seeing what you draw cause unlike understand the difference between freedom of speech and facsist censhorship.


lol, like i said before, i was joking.
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Postby unnamedman » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:02 pm

metecyp wrote:
unnamedman wrote:recep tayyip erdoğan didn't show someone like an animal in his poem, or didn't say anything to any person.

For your information, this is what he said in the poem.
The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers..

Now, imagine that you're a true supporter of secular Turkey...the poem he read definitely sounds like he's declaring a religious war against the secular Turkey, doesn't it? Or maybe not...maybe he meant he wants to use religion to start a war against illiteracy..he wants everyone to be more educated. This sounds good too, right?

What I'm getting at is this: An insult for you is not an insult for me...a declaration of war for me might sound like a nice little poem to you. We can't strip people off their freedom of speech because we think they are insulting or they're saying something we don't like. Unless it's 100% indisputable insult or attack, nobody has the right to silence anyone because they said something you don't agree.

It was wrong to put him in jail for what he said...but it's equally wrong for him to take an innocent cartoon so seriously and ask for punishment of the artist.


i think you are right in some points. i don't think that the cartoonist insult the pm. but pm recep tayyip erdoğan didn't like it. it's absolutely normal.
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Postby unnamedman » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:04 pm

NickTheGreek wrote:Erdogan = Barbarian

http://www.times-publications.com/publi ... rdogan.jpg

Fuck him and Islam. Sick of Muslims and their stupid little 'shariah' law crap. It's amazing how many 'Liberals' will do anything to please these people, despite the fact the Quran is full of the most intolerant, anti left wing bullshit I have ever seen. All it is is "And so you should kill all the infidels blah blah blah".


I have never talked like that "Fuck You Christians, Fuck Your Greeks!"

it's a difference between you and me. You have a freedom of speech but you cannot insult me or any other muslim. Moderators, I want you to ban this user.

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Postby NickTheGreek » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:24 pm

unnamedman wrote:
NickTheGreek wrote:Erdogan = Barbarian

http://www.times-publications.com/publi ... rdogan.jpg

Fuck him and Islam. Sick of Muslims and their stupid little 'shariah' law crap. It's amazing how many 'Liberals' will do anything to please these people, despite the fact the Quran is full of the most intolerant, anti left wing bullshit I have ever seen. All it is is "And so you should kill all the infidels blah blah blah".


I have never talked like that "Fuck You Christians, Fuck Your Greeks!"

it's a difference between you and me. You have a freedom of speech but you cannot insult me or any other muslim. Moderators, I want you to ban this user.

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Actually I apologize for that attack on Islam. It's just all this bullshit with 'infidels' really pisses me off sometimes. Didn't mean to offend you.
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Postby unnamedman » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:55 pm

I don't know who said these things about infidels. But It's WRONG! I don't think so that you have read Quran. Not only you, Turkish don't read Quran in Turkish. So they cannot talk about this subjects truly. I have a Turkish Quran ( Not Arabian), and I'm reading it every free moment.

I have never seen a sentences like that "Kill the infidels!"

Quran generally doesn't tell commands! It shows muslims to wrong things, behaviors, and people... And the results! So comments are compeletly belong to us.

Quran generally shows us good things, good behaviors and their results. So the comments are again belongs to us.

For Example;

"Don't reply the wrongdoing, with wrongdoing."

Quran is saying that, can same Quran tells us "Kill The infidels!"
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Postby unnamedman » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:56 pm

NickTheGreek wrote:
unnamedman wrote:
NickTheGreek wrote:Erdogan = Barbarian

http://www.times-publications.com/publi ... rdogan.jpg

Fuck him and Islam. Sick of Muslims and their stupid little 'shariah' law crap. It's amazing how many 'Liberals' will do anything to please these people, despite the fact the Quran is full of the most intolerant, anti left wing bullshit I have ever seen. All it is is "And so you should kill all the infidels blah blah blah".


I have never talked like that "Fuck You Christians, Fuck Your Greeks!"

it's a difference between you and me. You have a freedom of speech but you cannot insult me or any other muslim. Moderators, I want you to ban this user.

Forum Rules

- Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.


Actually I apologize for that attack on Islam. It's just all this bullshit with 'infidels' really pisses me off sometimes. Didn't mean to offend you.


You don't have to apologize, but you should know that you cannot insult people because of their religion, nation or personality.
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