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When was the "TC community" created in Cyprus?

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Postby zan » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:03 am

Piratis wrote:Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)



1960..Zurich agreement...Though not the actual date of creation a date in which it was put on paper and signed.....Have a look at your own documents. I was born in 1960...A fully fledged Turkish Cypriot of the only real republic of united Cyprus that has ever existed..Shame you replaced it with this joke of a version you have now....Enough numbers for you?????
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:23 am

iceman wrote:Excellent post Kifeas...
Some people do get carried away at times..


NO that was not getting carried away . . . this is:

:evil: Buzz off crawler! :evil:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:48 am

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)



1960..Zurich agreement...Though not the actual date of creation a date in which it was put on paper and signed.....Have a look at your own documents. I was born in 1960...A fully fledged Turkish Cypriot of the only real republic of united Cyprus that has ever existed..Shame you replaced it with this joke of a version you have now....Enough numbers for you?????


So the "TC Community" was created in 1960? Thats it? 47 years ago?

Well, thats one opinion from Zan, anybody disagrees or we should accept what Zan said?

When is the first historical reference about "Turkish Cypriots"?

Also I remind you my other question: "Do TCs celebrate the 1571 Ottoman invasion of Cyprus?" I am sure those that live in the occupied areas should know.
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Postby T_C » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:45 am

We came here in 1571 and no we don't celebrate the day...
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Postby T_C » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:47 am

Piratis wrote:Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)


Piratis the Ottoman archives that I found on the net were regarding the Armenians only.

I did read this article thats interesting though...

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=122952
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Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:01 am

I think you have to look back to British rule to find identification like: mixed village, or Greek Cypriot. At the time, I suppose Turcophones were a minority in a population which was labeled in this manner. With the ensuing imbroglios, after the Treaty of Zurich, and the founding of enclaves, an identity, the Turkish Cypriot, was formed.
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:57 am

phoenix wrote: I rant and rave . . . and hence DO NOT expect to betaken seriously . . if the TCs or Turks choose to make an example of me then they will look stupid because I have my own agenda which is to provoke and ridicule them as much as possible . . . whilst making sure I have the last laugh.


We are not in the business of ridiculing the TCs or the Turks! This is a racist and arrogant approach, but above all, counterproductive! We are only in the business of ridiculing the nationalists among them, and those that come here to exert separatist and anti-GC propaganda and lies!

phoenix wrote: As for Turkish being spoken on Cyprus . . that's fine.
I just don't want it as an official language . . . I think you accept that they are walking all over us if we capitulate on this…..


This primitive monocultural approach and practice takes place only in Kemalistan, where no other language is allowed to be spoken in public media or in the state institutions, outside Turkish! Cyprus is not Kemalistan, and we will never allow it to become one!

phoenix wrote: I will ameliorate as appropriate


Thank you very much!
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Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:00 am

Kifeas wrote:Phoenix, I fully agree with you that the Turkish habit of writing nationalistic, nevertheless hilarious slogans on mountains, is ridiculous and unacceptable, besides the fact it portrays a culturally deficient society! HOWEVER, to say that you detest the fact that Turkish is spoken in Cyprus, even though it is the native language of a substantial part of the Cypriot population and thus a cultural element of Cyprus itself, it is equally stupid and unacceptable and shows a culturally deficient person with low pedagogical and educational standards, not to say a racist one! In case you are not aware of it, even though Greek is one of the richest languages on earth, still a good number of everyday words that we use to add emphasis and impressionism in our talk, both in Greek Cypriot dialect but also in Greece, do have a Turkish origin!

Here here , I entirely agree and I think the "Terminator " female viper ought to concentrate on tasks that are commensurate to her abilities.
Turkish language and T/Cs are very much part of Cyprus and always will be .
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:29 pm

Kifeas wrote:We are not in the business of ridiculing the TCs or the Turks! This is a racist and arrogant approach, but above all, counterproductive! We are only in the business of ridiculing the nationalists among them, and those that come here to exert separatist and anti-GC propaganda and lies!

The extremist nationalist Turks are the only ones I counteract in a like manner. There are unfortunately quite a few!

Again Kifeas, I will remind you for reasons already stated, although racism is naturally inherent in all humans, my hate for Turkey is beyond such norms. Turkey chose to be the enemy of my country and its people. My hate is unreservedly for the Turks that do not abide by decent values and serve to not just provoke their neighbours but actually exterminate them.

I have nothing but brotherly love for all other Nations that respect their people and their neighbours.

Kifeas wrote:This primitive monocultural approach and practice takes place only in Kemalistan, where no other language is allowed to be spoken in public media or in the state institutions, outside Turkish! Cyprus is not Kemalistan, and we will never allow it to become one!


My objections are for the recognition of Turkish as an Official language in the RoC. It is an honour and a privilege that was given to the TCs but it has served to continually divide Cypriots into Turkish-speaking or Greek-speaking and hence is outmoded and unworkable. People can freely speak any language they so desire, but it does not have to be written in Law.

phoenix wrote: I will ameliorate as appropriate


Kifeas wrote:Thank you very much!


Orders executed, Kifeas :)
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Postby zan » Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:45 pm

Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)



1960..Zurich agreement...Though not the actual date of creation a date in which it was put on paper and signed.....Have a look at your own documents. I was born in 1960...A fully fledged Turkish Cypriot of the only real republic of united Cyprus that has ever existed..Shame you replaced it with this joke of a version you have now....Enough numbers for you?????


So the "TC Community" was created in 1960? Thats it? 47 years ago?

Well, thats one opinion from Zan, anybody disagrees or we should accept what Zan said?

When is the first historical reference about "Turkish Cypriots"?

Also I remind you my other question: "Do TCs celebrate the 1571 Ottoman invasion of Cyprus?" I am sure those that live in the occupied areas should know.



I don't know how much more simply I can put it for you to understand what I am saying Piratis but here goes.........I said that we were made official by the Zurich agreement and not made a part of Cyprus then...Our birthright takes care of that little insignificant question...... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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