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[Pyrpolizer]

One thing is certain Piratis. They teach them that in 1974 we had a "peace" operation

[phoenix]

This is a question for the TCs. What do they teach you at your schools?

Are you those same Ottoman Turks that invaded our island about 400 years ago, or you emigrated to Cyprus much more recently?

What is the "official" history on this, and does any TCs have a different opinion?

And one more question: Do the TCs celebrate the first Turkish invasion, when Lala Mustafa landed to Cyprus butchering 10s of thousands of Cypriots?

Please answer the above and also:

Do you teach Greek in your schools?

[Kifeas]

Phoenix, I fully agree with you that the Turkish habit of writing nationalistic, nevertheless hilarious slogans on mountains, is ridiculous and unacceptable, besides the fact it portrays a culturally deficient society! HOWEVER, to say that you detest the fact that Turkish is spoken in Cyprus, even though it is the native language of a substantial part of the Cypriot population and thus a cultural element of Cyprus itself, it is equally stupid and unacceptable and shows a culturally deficient person with low pedagogical and educational standards, not to say a racist one! In case you are not aware of it, even though Greek is one of the richest languages on earth, still a good number of everyday words that we use to add emphasis and impressionism in our talk, both in Greek Cypriot dialect but also in Greece, do have a Turkish origin!

[Piratis]

Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)

[phoenix]

Phoenix, I fully agree with you that the Turkish habit of writing nationalistic, nevertheless hilarious slogans on mountains, is ridiculous and unacceptable, besides the fact it portrays a culturally deficient society! HOWEVER, to say that you detest the fact that Turkish is spoken in Cyprus, even though it is the native language of a substantial part of the Cypriot population and thus a cultural element of Cyprus itself, it is equally stupid and unacceptable and shows a culturally deficient person with low pedagogical and educational standards, not to say a racist one! In case you are not aware of it, even though Greek is one of the richest languages on earth, still a good number of everyday words that we use to add emphasis and impressionism in our talk, both in Greek Cypriot dialect but also in Greece, do have a Turkish origin!

Kifeas, I do not accept that Turkish is a Native language of Cyprus . . . yes some words have been assimilated into Greek as well as the usual evolutions . . . like Americanisms into English.

There are compelling reasons for maintaining the purity of a language if you care to read Lichtenstein.

Do not label me as racist for wanting to preserve the Greek language or for wishing the return of Turks to their homelands. The reasons for these are due to their behaviour and failure to assimilate. It would be best for all in the end. Like divorce.

As for genetics (race) I do not distinguish between races of Humans and I can perform a number of experiments to prove such thinking is outmoded.. . . People only fall into cultural groups.

I urge you therefore to release yourself from a parochial standpoint which is too frightened to appear politically incorrect. We have real issues of ethnic cleansing to deal with.

[denizaksulu]

Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)

Piratis, I am sure you know the answer. Why do you ask?

[Piratis]

Why nobody answers the questions?

When was the TC community created?

I wonder if T_C who has access to some Ottoman archives he can tell us if there is any reference about "Turkish Cypriots" in their documents. (since obviously thats the earliest possible that the TC community could have been created)

Piratis, I am sure you know the answer. Why do you ask?

What I want to know is what TCs believe and what they are taught about this.

I also want to know if the TCs celebrate the 1571 Ottoman invasion of Cyprus.

[Kifeas]

Phoenix, I fully agree with you that the Turkish habit of writing nationalistic, nevertheless hilarious slogans on mountains, is ridiculous and unacceptable, besides the fact it portrays a culturally deficient society! HOWEVER, to say that you detest the fact that Turkish is spoken in Cyprus, even though it is the native language of a substantial part of the Cypriot population and thus a cultural element of Cyprus itself, it is equally stupid and unacceptable and shows a culturally deficient person with low pedagogical and educational standards, not to say a racist one! In case you are not aware of it, even though Greek is one of the richest languages on earth, still a good number of everyday words that we use to add emphasis and impressionism in our talk, both in Greek Cypriot dialect but also in Greece, do have a Turkish origin!

Kifeas, I do not accept that Turkish is a Native language of Cyprus . . . yes some words have been assimilated into Greek as well as the usual evolutions . . . like Americanisms into English.

There are compelling reasons for maintaining the purity of a language if you care to read Lichtenstein.

Do not label me as racist for wanting to preserve the Greek language or for wishing the return of Turks to their homelands. The reasons for these are due to their behaviour and failure to assimilate. It would be best for all in the end. Like divorce.

As for genetics (race) I do not distinguish between races of Humans and I can perform a number of experiments to prove such thinking is outmoded.. . . People only fall into cultural groups.

I urge you therefore to release yourself from a parochial standpoint which is too frightened to appear politically incorrect. We have real issues of ethnic cleansing to deal with.

Phoenix!

1. Do not think you can be “more royalist than the king himself,” because that makes you look stupid!

2. Turkish is the native language of a good portion of Cypriot Citizens, and therefore a native language of Cyprus as well! “We won't quit the wedding party, for the sake of going to start picking acorns,” if you know this Greek saying!

3. Greek is a very old, very rich, very strong and very established language -the mother of western languages as it is referred too by many international scholars and academics; to be endangered by extinction from this planet any time soon, set aside from Cyprus where 82% of its people do speak it as their native one! Make sure you and your children do learn to speak it properly, instead of being worried that it will disappear from Cyprus now, when it hasn’t been for the last 3,500 years under so many foreign rulers and conquerors!

4. I find certain of your words in here to be very damaging for the cause of peace, solution and the ending of our country’s occupation! Try to be more thoughtful and careful!

[iceman]

Excellent post Kifeas...
Some people do get carried away at times..

[phoenix]

Phoenix, I fully agree with you that the Turkish habit of writing nationalistic, nevertheless hilarious slogans on mountains, is ridiculous and unacceptable, besides the fact it portrays a culturally deficient society! HOWEVER, to say that you detest the fact that Turkish is spoken in Cyprus, even though it is the native language of a substantial part of the Cypriot population and thus a cultural element of Cyprus itself, it is equally stupid and unacceptable and shows a culturally deficient person with low pedagogical and educational standards, not to say a racist one! In case you are not aware of it, even though Greek is one of the richest languages on earth, still a good number of everyday words that we use to add emphasis and impressionism in our talk, both in Greek Cypriot dialect but also in Greece, do have a Turkish origin!

Kifeas, I do not accept that Turkish is a Native language of Cyprus . . . yes some words have been assimilated into Greek as well as the usual evolutions . . . like Americanisms into English.

There are compelling reasons for maintaining the purity of a language if you care to read Lichtenstein.

Do not label me as racist for wanting to preserve the Greek language or for wishing the return of Turks to their homelands. The reasons for these are due to their behaviour and failure to assimilate. It would be best for all in the end. Like divorce.

As for genetics (race) I do not distinguish between races of Humans and I can perform a number of experiments to prove such thinking is outmoded.. . . People only fall into cultural groups.

I urge you therefore to release yourself from a parochial standpoint which is too frightened to appear politically incorrect. We have real issues of ethnic cleansing to deal with.

Phoenix!

1. Do not think you can be “more royalist than the king himself,” because that makes you look stupid!

2. Turkish is the native language of a good portion of Cypriot Citizens, and therefore a native language of Cyprus as well! “We won't quit the wedding party, to go and start picking acorns!”

3. Greek is a very old, very rich, very strong and very established language -the mother of western languages as it is referred too by many international scholars and academics; to be endangered by extinction from this planet any time soon, set aside from Cyprus where 82% of its people do speak it as their native one! Make sure you and your children do learn to speak it properly, instead of being worried that it will disappear from Cyprus now, when it hasn’t been for the last 3,500 years under so many foreign rulers and conquerors!

4. I find certain of your words in here to be very damaging for the cause of peace, solution and the ending of our country’s occupation! Try to be more thoughtful and careful!

Kifeas, I truly respect your posts and undeniably they are well thought out, logical and serve the Cyprus cause admirably . . . yet you too have your critics from the TCs who would brand you as dangerous to their cause.

We are in a no win situation.

I rant and rave . . . and hence DO NOT expect to betaken seriously . . if the TCs or Turks choose to make an example of me then they will look stupid because I have my own agenda which is to provoke and ridicule them as much as possible . . . whilst making sure I have the last laugh.

I will endeavour to make sure at every post that it is clear that I am poking fun, and merely parodying the extremes that they have driven me to.

I never put myself on a pedestal and so I cannot be reprimanded for looking stupid . . . but I am sorry you think I am.

As for Turkish being spoken on Cyprus . . that's fine.
I just don't want it as an official language . . . I think you accept that they are walking all over us if we capitulate on this. Many other countries have higher proportions of minorities and they do not yield to facilitating a second language. I feel really strongly that the legacy of the British in the inclusion of Turkish as an Official language was paramount to the creation of the mess we are in now.

I do bow to your superior knowledge on these matters and I take note of your words . . . I will ameliorate as appropriate.