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Another controversial article by Ata Atun

Postby GreekForumer » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:32 pm

Another contoversial article by Ata Atun ([email protected] )

Turkish Armed Forces: The real peacekeeping force in Cyprus

Monday , 08 October 2007

* View by Ata ATUN

Mr. Papadopoulos, the president of Greek Cypriot administration, and leading Greek politicians continue propagating that the presence of the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) is the only factor hindering peace on the island.


Their catchphrase nowadays is, “If the Turkish military goes away, peace will come.” They repeat this at every occasion, domestic or international, anytime and anywhere.

Of course the Greek Cypriots do not want the Turkish military on the island. It is the only thing stopping them, the Greek Cypriot majority, from exterminating the Turkish Cypriots in 45 minutes, as Mr. Papadopoulos mentioned in his telegram sent to a US official in 1964.

After the declaration of independence in 1960, it became clear that the Greek Cypriots and Greece did not intend to abide by the constitution. They did not give up their ambition for the annexation of the island to Greece, and the Greek Cypriot leadership sought to unlawfully bring about constitutional changes.

In effect this would negate the “partnership” status of the Turkish Cypriots and clear the way for annexation with a Turkish minority.

The only way the Greek Cypriots could achieve their goals was to destroy legitimate order by the use of force and take over the state. Rule of law collapsed on the island in 1963 as a result of a ruling by the Supreme Court of Cyprus.

Christmas of 1963 saw the Greek Cypriot militia attack Turkish Cypriot communities across the island, killing many men, women and children. Around 270 mosques, shrines and other places of worship were desecrated. The constitution became unworkable because of the refusal on the part of the Greek Cypriots to fulfill the obligations to which they had agreed.

The bi-national republic which was imagined by the treaties ceased to exist after December 1963. The Greek Cypriot wing of the “partnership” state took over the title of the “government of Cyprus” and the Turkish Cypriots, who had never accepted the seizure of power, set up a Turkish administration to run their own affairs.

Under the Akritas plan -- Mr. Papadopoulos was one of the two who drafted it -- which was completed as early as 1961, the Greek Cypriots sought to annihilate the entire Turkish Cypriot population on Cyprus and, accordingly, the attacks on Turkish Cypriots started the night of Dec. 20, 1963. This atrocious night is known as “Bloody Christmas” in Turkish Cypriot history and over 600 innocent Turkish Cypriot men, women and children were ruthlessly slaughtered in one single night.

The UN Peacekeeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP), with the mission of bringing peace to the island, was sent to the island in March 1964.

They could not stop the clashes and the inhumane Greek attacks on Turkish Cypriots continued. Some 20,000 Greek troops arrived on Cyprus clandestinely to back up the Greek National Guards in their mission of massacring the Turkish Cypriots.

The outstanding Greek author Mr. Georgios Roussos, in his book titled “The Latter-day History of the Hellenic Nation, 1826-1974, Volume 7,” published in Athens in 1975, reveals this information, based on several official documents and memoirs of some outstanding high-ranking Greek politicians. As a result of grave human rights abuses, 103 Turkish Cypriot villages were destroyed and the inhabitants of these villages were forced to withdraw into small enclaves. Almost 60,000 Turkish Cypriots left their homes, belongings and memories and took shelter in safe areas to save their lives. In these enclaves their fundamental human rights were severely restricted and they lived out their lives as refugees within their own country. They had no access to most of life’s basic necessities, had no political representation and were exposed to constant violence and harassment regulated by the Greek Cypriot leadership.

The goal of the Greek Cypriot leadership under Makarios was to force all Turkish Cypriots off the island, either by brute force or by implementation of inhumane living conditions.

But the pace of Makarios for ethnic cleansing of Turkish Cypriots was not fast enough for the junta generals in Greece and this led to the Greek Cypriot National Guards overthrowing Makarios in a coup d’etat on July 15, 1974, under the command of Greek officers and with support of Greek troops from Greece.

From this point on, things changed dramatically on the island. Turkey had to intervene to save the lives of Turkish Cypriots since the speed of the genocide would have accelerated after the declaration of the “Cyprus Hellenic Republic” on July 16, 1974, by notorious human butcher and right-wing Greek operative Nicos Sampson, installed by the Greek junta as president of the unilaterally declared new republic.

After the intervention of the Turkish military on July 20, 1974, there were no clashes between the two peoples of Cyprus.

From that day, the Greek Cypriots never dared to attack Turkish Cypriots. No lives were lost, no Turkish Cypriots were exterminated because of their race and peace arrived on Cyprus.

It is the Turkish military who brought peace to the island, not the UN peacekeepers.

The Turkish Cypriots do not want the Turkish military to leave the island. They know that if the Turkish military leaves they will be exterminated by Greek Cypriots at the very first opportunity.

6 October 2007

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=49313



According to this Turkish website, deaths are as follows

The correct figure between 1956-1974 is just under 800...

http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler1.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler2.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler3.html
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler4.html

Code: Select all
Year Age 0-10     11-16     17-60     60+
1956      .         .         13        1
1957      .         2          7        .
1958      .         3         70       11
1959      .         .          1        .
1960      .         .          2        .
1961      .         .          3        .
1962      .         .          3        .
1963      5         .        125        9
1964      2         3        110       17
1965      .         1         21        .
1966      .         .         20        .
1967      3         4         47        7
1968      .         .          6        .
1969      .         .          3        .
1970      .         .          3        .
1971      .         .          7        .
1972      .         .          8        .
1973      .         .          3        .
1974      4         6        244        14




And about 15 TCs were last seen on the 20th-21th December 1963 according to www.atcanews.org/archive/missing.pdf


What went wrong on Cyprus?
By Guldener Sonumut

The Greek Cypriot leaders are in deep trouble in Europe. From 1963 until 2004 everything went well for them. They were able to put an end to every single life of the Turkish Cypriots without any problem. That is why over 7,000 Turkish Cypriots were killed from 1963 to 1974 in Cyprus. That's more than 2 percent of the Turkish Cypriot community, but no one even dared to shed light on these events. And no one dare to investigate in order to see if these events could be called genocide.

Source: New Anatolian, March 20, 2007

http://www.turkses.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=28


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Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:52 pm

They can't even get their LIES to agree! :lol:

I'll go find Ata tonight and see if I can encourage him to come here and face the music; I think it's high time he did.
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Postby phoenix » Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:55 pm

How do they come up with these numbers? :?
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Postby GreekForumer » Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:21 pm

phoenix wrote:How do they come up with these numbers? :?


Probably the same place they found this number.....
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Postby phoenix » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:53 pm

GreekForumer wrote:
phoenix wrote:How do they come up with these numbers? :?


Probably the same place they found this number.....
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They are a disgrace to the Human race! :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:04 pm

“Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”

King James - Matthew 15:14
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Postby T_C » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:15 pm

I think the 3 million figure relates to the deaths in WW1.

It's lame to use it against Greeks and Armenians considering it was the WORLD WAR though. :?
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Postby phoenix » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:30 pm

T_C wrote:I think the 3 million figure relates to the deaths in WW1.

It's lame to use it against Greeks and Armenians considering it was the WORLD WAR though. :?


Yes the figures probably relate to the total number of Muslims and Arabs killed in WW I . . . and a lot of them were actually killed by the Ottomans.

Turkey has invested a lot in PR to reverse its genocide record.

http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/ ... swers.html
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Postby T_C » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:56 pm

I feel for the Armenians but they need to stop using this "Hitler" speech.

It was even disputed by an Armenian who said himself that it was a hoax. Plus no one seems to know exactly what he said since the quote is never the same (see below from the link phoenix posted)..I'll try and find the article about it being a fake.

4. Why not leave historical questions to the historians? Why should the issue of the Armenian Genocide be fought out in the U.S. Congress, the European Commission, the European Parliament, or among world governments?

The Turkish government and its supporters have adopted the line of "leave Armenian history to the historians" because they do not have objective scholarship supporting their allegations and have resorted to propaganda. Currently, they are losing their propaganda battle. The issue of the Armenian Genocide is not a question of historical truth; that has been settled by historians. It is rather an issue of morality, legality and the acceptance of the truth.

History is too important to leave to historians. By leaving the Armenian injustice of World War I uncorrected, the stage was set for the Holocaust of World War II. The abandonment of the Armenians was not lost on Hitler. Hitler said before sending his troops into Poland, "Go, go kill without mercy. Who today remembers the extermination of the Armenians?"

7. It is your word against ours.

The Turkish government has confessed in earlier times. Prime Minister Damat Ferid Pasha placed the blame squarely on the Young Turk Party and held war crime trials in which the chief perpetrators were condemned to death.

PrinceAbdul Mecid, the heir apparent to the Ottoman Throne, said during an interview: "I refer to those awful massacres. They are the greatest stain that has ever disgraced our nation and race. They were entirely the work of Talat and Enver. I heard some days before they began that they were intended. I went to Istanbul and insisted on seeing Enver. I asked him if it was true and they intended to recommence the massacres that had been our shame and disgrace under Abdul Hamid. The only reply I could get from his was: 'It is decided. It is the program.'"

Mustafa Kemal Pasha (later surnamed "Ataturk") said in a 1926 interview with a Swiss reporter that "these holdovers from the Young Turkey [sic.] Party should be made to account for the lives of millions of our Christian subjects who were ruthlessly driven en masse from their homes and massacred. . . ."

And, of course, Hitler knew and drew a lesson from it. As he sent his Death Heads troops into Poland to start World War II, he said: "Go. Kill without pity. Who nowadays remembers the annihilation of the Armenians?"
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Postby zan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:03 pm

phoenix wrote:How do they come up with these numbers? :?


Probably the same place you guys found your numbers.....200,000 refugees (Snigger). 6000 killed by Turkey (Oh my stomach aches). We never touched you..(Muahahhahahaha) can't take it any more......... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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