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[Get Real!]

In defence of what is the question.......ENOSIS perhaps.....ENOSIS was not an option so plans were made in case......A bit different to the Akritas Plan which tried to manipulate the situation so ENOSIS was achievable. We have always been against ENOSIS...Where is the surprise in that...

Correction... you have always been against ENOSIS with Greece but not so with Turkey!

[zan]

In defence of what is the question.......ENOSIS perhaps.....ENOSIS was not an option so plans were made in case......A bit different to the Akritas Plan which tried to manipulate the situation so ENOSIS was achievable. We have always been against ENOSIS...Where is the surprise in that...

Correction... you have always been against ENOSIS with Greece but not so with Turkey!

We declared a republic twice if you care to remember...Once in 1960 and then again in 1983.......The first was with you, the second without you. You should have accepted the first.

[Get Real!]

In defence of what is the question.......ENOSIS perhaps.....ENOSIS was not an option so plans were made in case......A bit different to the Akritas Plan which tried to manipulate the situation so ENOSIS was achievable. We have always been against ENOSIS...Where is the surprise in that...

Correction... you have always been against ENOSIS with Greece but not so with Turkey!

We declared a republic twice if you care to remember...Once in 1960 and then again in 1983.......The first was with you, the second without you. You should have accepted the first.

What kind of an irrelevant response is that?

[utu]

What kind of an irrelevant response is that?

Looking at this thread, I'd say that response does have relevence.

[denizaksulu]

I don't believe for one minute that a solution can be achieved by war. I'm surprised this would be the choice of such intelligent and rational people like GR. Given the choice I'm sure they would choose to sit at the negotiation table rather than fighting at the front-line.

If you go back you'll find that Zan threatened first which triggered my response etc. While a peaceful solution to any problem is always best at the same time we the GCs would like the blackmailing partitionists to note well that we are VERY serious about the liberation and unification of the island and that if the need arises the Republic HAS, CAN, and WILL, use serious firepower unlike in 1974 so let there be no misunderstanding for them.

There is no doubt any race/nation would feel no different to you including us TCs. I do however believe none of the parties involved would want or allow this situation to escalate to an all out blood shedding war.

We are in 2007, you are in the EU. An act of war in this day and age is as likely as me or VP being elected as the President of the RoC.

Mr-From-NG we have war today and for the last 33 years. The war between Cyprus and Turkey, since Turkey is occupying land that belongs to Cyprus. What we have now is cease fire, not peace. So get your facts straight.

Don't worry Piratis I know the facts. This is one perfect example of how different we are and how difficult reunification will be.

For us the war ended in 1974, we are experiencing the type of peace we could only dream of.

You on the other hand look on this date as the beginning of war, one that continues for you and you have the audacity to say it is in a sate of "cease fire", I say bollocks. Why don't you print this fact on your holiday brochures then? Tell your potential tourists that the holiday they are about to book is in fact in a war zone. You are a joke. Intelligent well educated you may be but you sometimes act like a circus clown.[/quote]


Yes Piratis the last sentence unfortunately describes you well, furthermore like a clown who repeats the same slapstick, over and over again it fails in its effect. It is sad that you have become a 'joke' in spite of that. You have become a monotonous bore.

[denizaksulu]

What kind of an irrelevant response is that?

Looking at this thread, I'd say that response does have relevence.

Thats typical GR for you when he gets stuck in muck. Whatever he does not like is irrelevant.

[boomerang]

Yes Piratis the last sentence unfortunately describes you well, furthermore like a clown who repeats the same slapstick, over and over again it fails in its effect. It is sad that you have become a 'joke' in spite of that. You have become a monotonous bore.

Can I ask why the hell you are in this forum?...So far you have offered nothing but critisism...

I asked you before what is your ideal solution for a settlement....and so far you refuse to answer...you would rather critisize...

You are becoming very predictable and most above all boring to the max...

[Piratis]

An anonymous document can not verify anything. What is verified is what we all know about with or without some anonymous document. For example the map of partitioned Cyprus that Kucuk officially proposed back in 1957 clearly showed the plans that Turks had for Cyprus since then. Apparently you have not changed your aim.

In defence of what is the question.......ENOSIS perhaps.....ENOSIS was not an option so plans were made in case......A bit different to the Akritas Plan which tried to manipulate the situation so ENOSIS was achievable. We have always been against ENOSIS...Where is the surprise in that...

On the contrary, back in 1957 when Kucuk was publishing maps of partition, Enosis has been our right, which was denied to us by the colonialists. On the other hand, partition, which involves the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people, has never been a legitimate option.

Go here and read the resolution about decolonization. There you will find that "integration into an independent State" was one of "the three legitimate options" for a territory that is decolonized if this is what the population of that territory choices in a democratic way.

The colonialists and the former rulers Turks have used force to deny to the Cypriot people their right.

[Viewpoint]

An anonymous document can not verify anything. What is verified is what we all know about with or without some anonymous document. For example the map of partitioned Cyprus that Kucuk officially proposed back in 1957 clearly showed the plans that Turks had for Cyprus since then. Apparently you have not changed your aim.

In defence of what is the question.......ENOSIS perhaps.....ENOSIS was not an option so plans were made in case......A bit different to the Akritas Plan which tried to manipulate the situation so ENOSIS was achievable. We have always been against ENOSIS...Where is the surprise in that...

On the contrary, back in 1957 when Kucuk was publishing maps of partition, Enosis has been our right, which was denied to us by the colonialists. On the other hand, partition, which involves the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people, has never been a legitimate option.

Go here and read the resolution about decolonization. There you will find that "integration into an independent State" was one of "the three legitimate options" for a territory that is decolonized if this is what the population of that territory choices in a democratic way.

The colonialists and the former rulers Turks have used force to deny to the Cypriot people their right.

These are the same thoughts that your fathers subscribed to and look where it got them division. If you disregard a large section of your population and try to proceed then you open to door to an uprising and civil unrest which was the case in Cyprus. Your whole enosis dream was the litmus paper that made the bomb explode in your face and now you cry wolf. Well a little to late for that, the whole fabric of Cyprus has been changed forever and you have to accept that, you are still obviously in denial but hey that swing may or maynot arrive sometime soon don't give up hope.

[zan]

An anonymous document can not verify anything. What is verified is what we all know about with or without some anonymous document. For example the map of partitioned Cyprus that Kucuk officially proposed back in 1957 clearly showed the plans that Turks had for Cyprus since then. Apparently you have not changed your aim.

In defence of what is the question.......ENOSIS perhaps.....ENOSIS was not an option so plans were made in case......A bit different to the Akritas Plan which tried to manipulate the situation so ENOSIS was achievable. We have always been against ENOSIS...Where is the surprise in that...

On the contrary, back in 1957 when Kucuk was publishing maps of partition, Enosis has been our right, which was denied to us by the colonialists. On the other hand, partition, which involves the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of people, has never been a legitimate option.

Go here and read the resolution about decolonization. There you will find that "integration into an independent State" was one of "the three legitimate options" for a territory that is decolonized if this is what the population of that territory choices in a democratic way.

The colonialists and the former rulers Turks have used force to deny to the Cypriot people their right.

What a load of hogwash...You have never had the RIGHT to ENOSIS because you have never had the island...That was only the case after the Zurich agreement and then you did not have the right in writing.