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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:34 pm

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devil wrote:I disagree. Unless people are made aware of a "negative" aspect, nothing will ever improve. It's only a pity that the photos don't show those who do the dumping so that they could be named and shamed. In some parts of the USA, anyone caught littering is condemned to wearing a T-shirt for a couple of weeks, visibly showing, back and front, "I was caught dumping trash and this is my punishment" (they are given 3 such T-shirts and, if they are seen without them, it's straight to jail!)

Look at the first 6 photos here. The blue drum in the last 2 photos was potentially a dangerous pollutant. I obviously could not remove it myself a) because I have no licence to transport hazardous materials and b) even if I had, I had no means to safely dispose of it. Instead, I e-mailed the Ministry and informed them where it was. It was removed the following day. As for the car in the 4th photo, it remained there, by the side of a main road for several years. It was only my constant insistence that the mukhtar finally had it disposed of to a licensed car wrecker. If I hadn't yelled loudly, it would still be there.

I hope that exposing people to unpleasant photos will, in the long, improve the situation, even if those that dump rubbish like that obviously have nothing in their skulls to allow them to actually think what what they are doing.


Fully agree. And more usefull a full set of such photos to be sent every morning to the respective minister.


By the way after each new update every ''responsible person'' in the government, parliament ,environmental organization and press is informed .Few have their emails unopened for weeks , some others have extremely sensitive spam blockers while some others are playing backgammon and some others simply do care .Of course we have those recipients who always thing that the e mail is for some other public service.
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You know, some times i wonder whether a union or other team of people could hire big advertisement places in high ways or in central of the cities just publishing such photos and other cases which are clearly a government negligence. Like ministers and politicians advertise themselves before elections may be we could advertise what they are not doing during their time in the government!!!
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Postby Antreis » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:39 pm

Not a bad idea but internet is cleaner .Big advertising boards are also a sight polluting medium.
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Postby Z4 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:34 pm

Since your site has been online has their been any improvement made with the rubbish etc??
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Postby Antreis » Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:48 pm

Z4 wrote:Since your site has been online has their been any improvement made with the rubbish etc??


There was improvement in cleaning various areas -not all of them.
However there wasn't any improvement in the way the various governmental officials organize things.Few things they could have done ; long-term planning, giving easy access to proper waste disposal, increasing the countryside patrols (actually non-existent any more) , trying to educate people, greater involvement of the new recycling companies etc .
Of course cleaned areas such as Lady's Mile and the Eucalyptus forest have been gradually re-populated with waste since no prevention methods have been enforced.

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P.S. Personally I do not consider fines to be the most important prevention method if is going to be the only prevention method.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:04 pm

Andreis,

I’m not sure if I’ve mentioned this before but unless you’re also contacting the relevant shire councils to inform them of rubbish found then I question the objectivity and effectiveness of your website.
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Postby Antreis » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:Andreis,

I’m not sure if I’ve mentioned this before but unless you’re also contacting the relevant shire councils to inform them of rubbish found then I question the objectivity and effectiveness of your website.


I am glad for the question .
My mailing list is in fact very long !!!!
Councils, Municipalities, CTO, Ministries( Environment , Health, Interior, UK MOD), various independent authorities, all the news media of Cyprus, Parliament committees and individual MPs,political parties , SIGs, NGOs the Envelopment Commissioner of EU , of Cyprus and other active individuals.
All of them are informed for every update .
The effectiveness is the result of the pressure by all the responsible people being officials of private citizens such as members of the Cyprus Forum.

I hope that i have enlightened your curiosity.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:21 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Andreis,

I’m not sure if I’ve mentioned this before but unless you’re also contacting the relevant shire councils to inform them of rubbish found then I question the objectivity and effectiveness of your website.


I am glad for the question .
My mailing list is in fact very long !!!!
Councils, Municipalities, CTO, Ministries( Environment , Health, Interior, UK MOD), various independent authorities, all the news media of Cyprus, Parliament committees and individual MPs,political parties , SIGs, NGOs the Envelopment Commissioner of EU , of Cyprus and other active individuals.
All of them are informed for every update .
The effectiveness is the result of the pressure by all the responsible people being officials of private citizens such as members of the Cyprus Forum.

I hope that i have enlightened your curiosity.
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Ok, fare enough. The other thing I forgot to mention is that you should be aware that about twice a year, shire councils send out a letter to homes to ask them to pile up their “large” rubbish outside (stuff like furniture etc that don’t fit in the average skip) and they then come round with a lorry to collect it.

Unfortunately, I noticed that some of the photos shown on your website as “abandoned trash” are in fact neighborhoods in the process of what I described above!
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Postby Antreis » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:Andreis,

I’m not sure if I’ve mentioned this before but unless you’re also contacting the relevant shire councils to inform them of rubbish found then I question the objectivity and effectiveness of your website.


I am glad for the question .
My mailing list is in fact very long !!!!
Councils, Municipalities, CTO, Ministries( Environment , Health, Interior, UK MOD), various independent authorities, all the news media of Cyprus, Parliament committees and individual MPs,political parties , SIGs, NGOs the Envelopment Commissioner of EU , of Cyprus and other active individuals.
All of them are informed for every update .
The effectiveness is the result of the pressure by all the responsible people being officials of private citizens such as members of the Cyprus Forum.

I hope that i have enlightened your curiosity.
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Ok, fare enough. The other thing I forgot to mention is that you should be aware that about twice a year, shire councils send out a letter to homes to ask them to pile up their “large” rubbish outside (stuff like furniture etc that don’t fit in the average skip) and they then come round with a lorry to collect it.

Unfortunately, I noticed that some of the photos shown on your website as “abandoned trash” are in fact neighborhoods in the process of what I described above!


So you really think that the oversized trash should stay on the pavements for months until some one from the local council picks them up ?
Besides i am not sure whether or not those articles do not fit in a skip.
And i am not sure either whether the various municipalities in Cyprus have any priorities regarding this particular category of trash which includes electrical and electronic appliances which require separate handling due to its nature.
In addition the skip scheme that Limassol municipality introduced few years ago was a victim of its own success if that is ever possible !!!
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Postby SSBubbles » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:55 pm

suegwyn wrote:I can't agree with you on this one! :shock: Never` have I seen as much dumping as I have since being in Cyprus. The penalty for dumping has to be harsher, prevention is better than cure!


You are wasting your time! Cyprus is 'Utopia' as far as O is concerned, therefore I find that she cannot be objective! :lol:


Regarding the rubbish I have noticed that the highways are being 'spruced up' for summer as there are lots of bags ready for collection!
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Postby Z4 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:30 pm

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suegwyn wrote:I can't agree with you on this one! :shock: Never` have I seen as much dumping as I have since being in Cyprus. The penalty for dumping has to be harsher, prevention is better than cure!


You are wasting your time! Cyprus is 'Utopia' as far as O is concerned, therefore I find that she cannot be objective! :lol:


Regarding the rubbish I have noticed that the highways are being 'spruced up' for summer as there are lots of bags ready for collection!


I have regularly seen old cars/vans and trucks dumped/left on the side of the road and they look like they havent been used for ages
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