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[Oracle]

I can't agree with you on this one! Never` have I seen as much dumping as I have since being in Cyprus. The penalty for dumping has to be harsher, prevention is better than cure!

Well, if you return to the UK, you will see that things get dumped daily there too. Whereas in Cyprus they would remain there for an inordinate length of time, in the UK they used to disappear pretty fast again because the authorities would sweep round and clean-up.

Not any more ... with the cuts, you now actually see the accumulation of rubbish and it is REALLY bad!

So, I've concluded rubbish is generated by people, disposed of in the most convenient manner available to them ... and so the authorities have to accept this and increase appropriate clean-ups and re-cycling facilities!

It just takes one person to mess up, when hundreds are good, and unless it gets picked up by the authorities (fast) ... then that same person will add to it and it will continue to accumulate.

Therefore, it's just a matter of lobbying to increase re-cycling and dump-clean-ups.

[AWE]

and in Cyprus getting the bureaucrats to actually do something other than drink coffee and smoke all day until they finish at 11:30 AM...

[Oracle]

I've always found that identifying the problem is usually the stumbling block with most situations.

That done, Cyprus is pretty hot at then tackling it, and even better at getting results...

[AWE]

I've always found that identifying the problem is usually the stumbling block with most situations.

That done, Cyprus is pretty hot at then tackling it, and even better at getting results...

Apart from title deeds, road deaths, WATER! and division.

[Antreis]

My empirical assessment of rubbish-dumping in Cyprus compared to that in the UK (my two most familiar environments) ... is that there is as much dumping, if not more so, going on illicitly, in the UK, as in Cyprus ... but it's just that the authorities in the UK are (were) better at collecting it and confining it to land-fill sites.

The problem is becoming more obvious here in the UK at the moment, with towns and the country-side more visibly contaminated with litter, because of cut-backs in clean-ups.

So, I don't think Cypriots are too bad at dumping ... but the authorities have to employ more people to clean-up, frequently and consistently!

Oracle, do you really believe that the Cypriots aren't too bad at dumping? Is that 'not too bad' as in they do a good job of it???

Yup ... as I said, it's the failure of authorities to pick up frequently enough. Mess happens around humans ... I see it a lot, with fresh eyes, now I'm back in the UK ... A LOT!

But, the difference I realise, now I've done a fairly careful comparison, is that it gets picked up more regularly here in the UK.

So really, the authorities have to expand their army of recyclers and cleaners ...

Actually the authorities do not ''notice'' the trash sites even when they are stepping on them unless some citizens complain about it.Then, after a long time consuming discussion primely on the subject of who is responsible for removing the garbage they might remove them as it happened in the Ladies Mile area last year .

http://dailytrash.fotopic.net/p45817484.html

http://dailytrash.fotopic.net/c1389228.html

[Oracle]

I've always found that identifying the problem is usually the stumbling block with most situations.

That done, Cyprus is pretty hot at then tackling it, and even better at getting results...

Apart from title deeds, road deaths, WATER! and division.

Get lost. Your opinion is outdated, inaccurate and irrelevant ... especially on this thread!

[Oracle]

My empirical assessment of rubbish-dumping in Cyprus compared to that in the UK (my two most familiar environments) ... is that there is as much dumping, if not more so, going on illicitly, in the UK, as in Cyprus ... but it's just that the authorities in the UK are (were) better at collecting it and confining it to land-fill sites.

The problem is becoming more obvious here in the UK at the moment, with towns and the country-side more visibly contaminated with litter, because of cut-backs in clean-ups.

So, I don't think Cypriots are too bad at dumping ... but the authorities have to employ more people to clean-up, frequently and consistently!

Oracle, do you really believe that the Cypriots aren't too bad at dumping? Is that 'not too bad' as in they do a good job of it???

Yup ... as I said, it's the failure of authorities to pick up frequently enough. Mess happens around humans ... I see it a lot, with fresh eyes, now I'm back in the UK ... A LOT!

But, the difference I realise, now I've done a fairly careful comparison, is that it gets picked up more regularly here in the UK.

So really, the authorities have to expand their army of recyclers and cleaners ...

Actually the authorities do not ''notice'' the trash sites even when they are stepping on them unless some citizens complain about it.Then, after a long time consuming discussion primely on the subject of who is responsible for removing the garbage they might remove them as it happened in the Ladies Mile area last year .

http://dailytrash.fotopic.net/p45817484.html

http://dailytrash.fotopic.net/c1389228.html

Antreis

Cyprus has the money. I really think an awakening needs to happen so that they mobilise into action, a major clean-up, which is kept on top-of. It has to be continual. As soon as there is any let up, those few wrong-doers mess the place up again.

I see it increasingly in the UK now. Seagulls pecking black bin-bags left around the place, urban foxes getting into over-full street bins, take-away rubbish strewn on the streets after nightly booze-ups etc. Where they are cleaned-up frequently, it's not too bad. But the poorer, less showy areas are looking decidedly dirty.

[denizaksulu]

My empirical assessment of rubbish-dumping in Cyprus compared to that in the UK (my two most familiar environments) ... is that there is as much dumping, if not more so, going on illicitly, in the UK, as in Cyprus ... but it's just that the authorities in the UK are (were) better at collecting it and confining it to land-fill sites.

The problem is becoming more obvious here in the UK at the moment, with towns and the country-side more visibly contaminated with litter, because of cut-backs in clean-ups.

So, I don't think Cypriots are too bad at dumping ... but the authorities have to employ more people to clean-up, frequently and consistently!

Oracle, do you really believe that the Cypriots aren't too bad at dumping? Is that 'not too bad' as in they do a good job of it???

Yup ... as I said, it's the failure of authorities to pick up frequently enough. Mess happens around humans ... I see it a lot, with fresh eyes, now I'm back in the UK ... A LOT!

But, the difference I realise, now I've done a fairly careful comparison, is that it gets picked up more regularly here in the UK.

So really, the authorities have to expand their army of recyclers and cleaners ...

Actually the authorities do not ''notice'' the trash sites even when they are stepping on them unless some citizens complain about it.Then, after a long time consuming discussion primely on the subject of who is responsible for removing the garbage they might remove them as it happened in the Ladies Mile area last year .

http://dailytrash.fotopic.net/p45817484.html

http://dailytrash.fotopic.net/c1389228.html

Antreis

Cyprus has the money. I really think an awakening needs to happen so that they mobilise into action, a major clean-up, which is kept on top-of. It has to be continual. As soon as there is any let up, those few wrong-doers mess the place up again.

I see it increasingly in the UK now. Seagulls pecking black bin-bags left around the place, urban foxes getting into over-full street bins, take-away rubbish strewn on the streets after nightly booze-ups etc. Where they are cleaned-up frequently, it's not too bad. But the poorer, less showy areas are looking decidedly dirty.

In the UK, well at least my council, ask us to use black-bags for certain perishable house waste. For the extra security we are asked to place these on our blue lidded 'recycling bin'. It is obvious they have never seen our dear foxes and crows in action. Foxes have no trouble jumping over fences; the councils are MAD.

[EPSILON]

I disagree. Unless people are made aware of a "negative" aspect, nothing will ever improve. It's only a pity that the photos don't show those who do the dumping so that they could be named and shamed. In some parts of the USA, anyone caught littering is condemned to wearing a T-shirt for a couple of weeks, visibly showing, back and front, "I was caught dumping trash and this is my punishment" (they are given 3 such T-shirts and, if they are seen without them, it's straight to jail!)

Look at the first 6 photos here. The blue drum in the last 2 photos was potentially a dangerous pollutant. I obviously could not remove it myself a) because I have no licence to transport hazardous materials and b) even if I had, I had no means to safely dispose of it. Instead, I e-mailed the Ministry and informed them where it was. It was removed the following day. As for the car in the 4th photo, it remained there, by the side of a main road for several years. It was only my constant insistence that the mukhtar finally had it disposed of to a licensed car wrecker. If I hadn't yelled loudly, it would still be there.

I hope that exposing people to unpleasant photos will, in the long, improve the situation, even if those that dump rubbish like that obviously have nothing in their skulls to allow them to actually think what what they are doing.

Fully agree. And more usefull a full set of such photos to be sent every morning to the respective minister.

[Antreis]

I disagree. Unless people are made aware of a "negative" aspect, nothing will ever improve. It's only a pity that the photos don't show those who do the dumping so that they could be named and shamed. In some parts of the USA, anyone caught littering is condemned to wearing a T-shirt for a couple of weeks, visibly showing, back and front, "I was caught dumping trash and this is my punishment" (they are given 3 such T-shirts and, if they are seen without them, it's straight to jail!)

Look at the first 6 photos here. The blue drum in the last 2 photos was potentially a dangerous pollutant. I obviously could not remove it myself a) because I have no licence to transport hazardous materials and b) even if I had, I had no means to safely dispose of it. Instead, I e-mailed the Ministry and informed them where it was. It was removed the following day. As for the car in the 4th photo, it remained there, by the side of a main road for several years. It was only my constant insistence that the mukhtar finally had it disposed of to a licensed car wrecker. If I hadn't yelled loudly, it would still be there.

I hope that exposing people to unpleasant photos will, in the long, improve the situation, even if those that dump rubbish like that obviously have nothing in their skulls to allow them to actually think what what they are doing.

Fully agree. And more usefull a full set of such photos to be sent every morning to the respective minister.

By the way after each new update every ''responsible person'' in the government, parliament ,environmental organization and press is informed .Few have their emails unopened for weeks , some others have extremely sensitive spam blockers while some others are playing backgammon and some others simply do care .Of course we have those recipients who always thing that the e mail is for some other public service.
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