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Postby phoenix » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:17 pm

BlueNoseDave wrote:,.. Phoenix, Agression never wins in the long run, Cyprus is in the real world ONE Island, it is not Turkish or a part of Greece. For both communities to move forword there has to be strong leadership towords compromise that is the message nothing else, as for predujiuce you get that in every society and country in the planet, it takes individules to get over that NOT governments. Partion has never been the answer there is so many examples all over the world, all that dose is breed conflict. Cyprus is no diffrent.


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I do not advocate Aggression.

Instead I take great pride in Cyprus' clean record on never having initiated an offensive attack on any Nation. Any comparisons I may have made between the RoC and the Ireland situation where to draw a contrast to the fact that the RoC has NOT generated terrorist groups like the IRA to fight its cause but has persisted in looking for Diplomatic resolutions. This I applaud.

But I do think there are some parallels between the two disputes. In my scenario I see the U.K. (possibly just England) as equivalent to Turkey who invaded a neighbouring country and stayed for hundreds of years, dividing the island into two. Controlling the North from afar and filling it with Protestants (c.f. illegal settlers).

True also is the fact that a resolution is fast on its way for Ireland because it has joined the EU. Protestants have been leaving for the U.K. and the demographics are now such that, for the first time, the majority in Northern Ireland want re-unification . . . which is due to materialise in the next decade.

It is perhaps foresight by Turkey that it is transporting its people from Anatolia to the occupied section to keep its hold there. This practice is recognised as an illegal act and will be rectified when the time comes (shortly) for Cyprus to re-unify and rightfully be fully governed and administered by the RoC.

It perhaps may be the guilt that the U.K. feels due to its similarity to the aggressor nation, Turkey, that it has not been the true friend to the Cyprus Problem that it could and should have been.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:37 pm

BlueNoseDave wrote:Get Real, Yes they are two diffrent conflicts BUT the principal is the same there can be no way forword unless there is compromise. !!

Cyprus is under no obligation to compromise her sovereignty but Turkey is obliged to respect the sovereignty of others.
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Postby zan » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The sovereignty of Cyprus is not an internal dispute like that of the UK mentioned in this thread so no parallels can be drawn.

Speared on by Turkey, the miniscule 18% TC minority is renegading when in fact what they should be doing is adopting to the RoC and settling down. After all what’s in the interests of the average Turkish Cypriot? Is it not that they have a well paying job, good healthcare, education, etc?

Well, waving little red rags and shouting independence slogans is not what their families need so the sooner they come to their senses the sooner they’ll benefit from all that the remaining Cypriots are benefiting from.

The ball is in their court.


If it means being ruled by blackmailers like you who threaten peoples families openly GR give me isolation and partition any time of the day or the millennium.

You know what you can do with your osmosis and unification, don't ya?

People like Denktash, VP, and yourself have no place in Cyprus REGARDLESS of the political arrangement so spare yourself from likely lifetime imprisonment and stay put in the UK.


GR are takes over the policies of Makarios, Grivas, Sampson and of course his friends dad Tpap.........Thank heavens that who stays and who goes is not his decision in the TRNC/KKTC. Viva La TRNC/KKTC.....Nothing else will work in Cyprus with idiotic views like his....



P.S. why don't you just drop this pheonix shit now GR...It is getting really tiring....Just post as one person will you...Be a man!
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Postby boomerang » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:20 pm

P.S. why don't you just drop this pheonix shit now GR...It is getting really tiring....Just post as one person will you...Be a man!

mate your private dick skills never ceaze to amaze me... :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:22 pm

boomerang wrote:
P.S. why don't you just drop this pheonix shit now GR...It is getting really tiring....Just post as one person will you...Be a man!

mate your private dick skills never ceaze to amaze me... :lol:



What my dick does in private is nothing to do with you...... :wink: :lol: Solitaire anyone?? :lol: :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:26 pm

boomerang wrote:
P.S. why don't you just drop this pheonix shit now GR...It is getting really tiring....Just post as one person will you...Be a man!

mate your private dick skills never ceaze to amaze me... :lol:


Zan is up to his old tiresome tricks again . . . like a broken record :roll:

He has a problem moving with the times . . . keeps on regressing to the to the past :D
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Postby boomerang » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:26 pm

no thanks 86
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Postby zan » Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:35 pm

phoenix wrote:
boomerang wrote:
P.S. why don't you just drop this pheonix shit now GR...It is getting really tiring....Just post as one person will you...Be a man!

mate your private dick skills never ceaze to amaze me... :lol:


Zan is up to his old tiresome tricks again . . . like a broken record :roll:

He has a problem moving with the times . . . keeps on regressing to the to the past :D



Speaks the purveyor of originality since 1974.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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