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Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby halil » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:07 am

Turkish Cypriot Side is ready to start fully fledged negotiations for a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus Problem.
Turkish Cypriot Side is in support of the establishment of a new partnership based on the existing UN parameters on the Cyprus Issue. and the Good Offices Mission of UN Secretary General.
Turkish Cypriot Side desired a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus Problem under the UN umbrella.
Turkey supported the Turkish Cypriot Side’s efforts to find a just and lasting peace in Cyprus.
Need to settle the Cyprus Issue on the basis of the political equality of the two sides.
Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos’s latest address to the UN General Assembly was an attempt to change the existing parameters on the issue so as to distort the realities on the island.
Papadopoulos was trying to associate the Cyprus problem with the presence of the Turkish Peace Forces on the island, claiming that the problem would be settled with the withdrawl of Turkish troops. These are efforts to distort Cyprus problem.
Greek Cypriot leader had rejected all proposals put forward by the Turkish Cypriot Side on speeding up the stalled 8-July process during the 5th September meeting. This negative response only served to confirm their suspicions that the Greek Cypriot Side has no intention of solving the Cyprus Problem any time soon.
Cyprus Problem had to take into perspective the realities on the island.
‘Greek Cypriots ignore their responsibilities for past mistakes. They think the conflict started in 1974. They always concentrate on the Turkish military actions, but they fail to see what happened before that, how they created the conditions for the Turkish intervention .
Greek Cypriots fail to understand the reality in the north. They don’t see the growing disparity between the two sides, and they misunderstand our wish to have our autonomy and equality.
They don’t see how the embargos they implement hurt them in the long run, giving us Turkey as our only window to the rest of the world.
Greek Cypriots think of us as inferior. They don’t understand that we have our own political institutions, that we have a democratically elected government, that we have rules and regulations under which
we administrate our society.
Greek Cypriots are preoccupied with their own victimization. They fail to see that they have victimized others. We know they have some genuine and serious concerns about their security, but they are not
at all concerned about our security. Greek Cypriots have a superiority complex, not only toward us but towards others as well. They want everything for themselves. They take all the advantages and benefits of being recognized, and they do not share it with us.
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Postby zan » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:25 am

Halil

Can that be translated into Greek and posted again.....It may get through better.....They seem to have a wall up against understanding in English.
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby twinkle » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:25 am

halil wrote:Greek Cypriots think of us as inferior. .


Do you want to explain why Turkey sees women as inferior ie your new proposed constitution which states "women need protecting"????
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby zan » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:37 am

twinkle wrote:
halil wrote:Greek Cypriots think of us as inferior. .


Do you want to explain why Turkey sees women as inferior ie your new proposed constitution which states "women need protecting"????



You are dealing with TCs here twinkle....We can easily go into how Greece treats people if you like......Stop trying to talk over our heads and talk to the TCs....This has gone on long enough.
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby alexISS » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:41 am

halil wrote:Turkey supported the Turkish Cypriot Side’s efforts to find a just and lasting peace in Cyprus.


Was Turkey supporting the Cypriots' efforts to find a just and lasting peace in Cyprus before 2002? Did Turkey expect that, after 30 years of intransigence, the RoC would accept any solution proposal just because Turkey was benevolent enough to finally accept the fact there is a Cyprus Problem?
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby alexISS » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:43 am

zan wrote:You are dealing with TCs here twinkle....We can easily go into how Greece treats people if you like......Stop trying to talk over our heads and talk to the TCs....This has gone on long enough.


And how does Greece treats people? Greek women are allowed to wear whatever they want, and becoming the victim of a "honour killing" is not a major concern for them
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby zan » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:48 am

alexISS wrote:
zan wrote:You are dealing with TCs here twinkle....We can easily go into how Greece treats people if you like......Stop trying to talk over our heads and talk to the TCs....This has gone on long enough.


And how does Greece treats people? Greek women are allowed to wear whatever they want, and becoming the victim of a "honour killing" is not a major concern for them


What goes on in Turkey will be sorted out in the EU alexISS and there is no way of defending those sorts of actions. Dig deep and Greece will have its problems too and it does. The point is that we are talking to GCs and expect them to stop their stupid games and talk to us.
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Postby halil » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:55 am

whenever we wrote about our views some how our Greek friends they like to change the subject . İ don't care what is happening in Greece or Turkey. İt is their internal affair.
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby alexISS » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:56 am

zan wrote:
alexISS wrote:
zan wrote:You are dealing with TCs here twinkle....We can easily go into how Greece treats people if you like......Stop trying to talk over our heads and talk to the TCs....This has gone on long enough.


And how does Greece treats people? Greek women are allowed to wear whatever they want, and becoming the victim of a "honour killing" is not a major concern for them


What goes on in Turkey will be sorted out in the EU alexISS and there is no way of defending those sorts of actions. Dig deep and Greece will have its problems too and it does. The point is that we are talking to GCs and expect them to stop their stupid games and talk to us.


And who is this "US"? The occupying army is not Turkish Cypriot, Zan, it's Turkish. The Cyprus problem is a problem of an illegal occupation of land, and that's it. Unless Turkey decides to give total power over their occupation force to the TC President, she, and not the TCs, are the "other side"
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Re: Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots

Postby zan » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:04 am

alexISS wrote:
zan wrote:
alexISS wrote:
zan wrote:You are dealing with TCs here twinkle....We can easily go into how Greece treats people if you like......Stop trying to talk over our heads and talk to the TCs....This has gone on long enough.


And how does Greece treats people? Greek women are allowed to wear whatever they want, and becoming the victim of a "honour killing" is not a major concern for them


What goes on in Turkey will be sorted out in the EU alexISS and there is no way of defending those sorts of actions. Dig deep and Greece will have its problems too and it does. The point is that we are talking to GCs and expect them to stop their stupid games and talk to us.


And who is this "US"? The occupying army is not Turkish Cypriot, Zan, it's Turkish. The Cyprus problem is a problem of an illegal occupation of land, and that's it. Unless Turkey decides to give total power over their occupation force to the TC President, she, and not the TCs, are the "other side"


The same old line mate if you don't mind me saying...This line was used by the "RoC" to show the world that the intervention was not legal and now it is biting them back. The world wants you to talk to US the TCs and recognise our leaders. Simple really
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