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[Eric dayi]

The same old line mate if you don't mind me saying...This line was used by the "RoC" to show the world that the intervention was not legal and now it is biting them back. The world wants you to talk to US the TCs and recognise our leaders. Simple really

I don't mind at all. The RoC has been consistent from the beginning,

Yep, very true. The "RoC" has been very consistent in it's quest for ENOSIS right from the beginning and is still on the same road. The only thing that changed is the way the "RoC" is trying to get what it has been after for 44 years, disguised under the name "osmosis".

[Bill]

Come on boys and girls ~ do you really think that Turkey will give up their hold on northern Cyprus ~ It's what they have wanted for years although they would have preferred the whole island they have settled for 30%.

The fact that Turkish Cypriots needed some form of protection ( not necessary Turkish intervention ) was very convenient at the time and they took the opportunity .

Keeping 40,000 Turkish troops in a relatively small part of Cyprus is making a statement that it belongs to Turkey irrespective of your claims that they are there for your protection.

Look at this logically ~ how long would it take to mount a first wave of troops and war planes and get them from Turkey to Cyprus to ensure TC protection and then ask your self why those 40,000 troops are still there ~ that level of troops in such a small area and being so close to your supposed motherland is a totally unnecessary show of force.

To qoute Halil
Tip Off From Turkish Cypriots:
Think over them and Find your destiny.
Those are the Turkish Cypriots puplic opinions

A lot of Turkish Cypriots I have spoken to would like to see the majority of troops removed from the TRNC ~ they would like to be able to say that Northern Cyprus is theirs and not just an annexe of Turkey~ and believe it or not they would like more interaction with the Greek Cypriots.

But I'm talking about the average man in the street here ~ not the nationalistic pro Turkey supporters that seem to make the most noise and apparently think that they are speaking for everybody or for that matter the large population of Turkish settlers who have a vested interest in remaining there and are beholden to their motherland Turkey.

Neither the Greek Cypriots or the Turkish Cypriots including interference from their supposed motherlands are innocent in the initial run up to this sad state of affairs ~ it's the way in which it was sorted out that has become the problem and as it stands now almost impossible to resolve.


Bill ~~

[phoenix]

Greek Cypriots ignore their responsibilities for past mistakes. They think the conflict started in 1974. They always concentrate on the Turkish military actions, but they fail to see what happened before that, how they created the conditions for the Turkish intervention .

Halil, you are quite wrong in stating we do not think beyond 1974. We are more than fully aware Turkey has been tyrannising us for a VERY LONG time before that.

It's just that there are 40,000 Turkish troops still hanging around since 1974.

Bit bloody difficult to think of much else then, wouldn't you say!

Do Turks make a habit of entering their neighbours' houses uninvited and then just hanging around . . . . ooohhh silly me, looks like they do!

[alexISS]

Yep, very true. The "RoC" has been very consistent in it's quest for ENOSIS right from the beginning and is still on the same road. The only thing that changed is the way the "RoC" is trying to get what it has been after for 44 years, disguised under the name "osmosis".

You are correct. The RoC has been after ENOSIS all along. ENOSIS(=union) of the occupied northern Cyprus with the free south. Thanks for understanding

[zan]

Greek Cypriots ignore their responsibilities for past mistakes. They think the conflict started in 1974. They always concentrate on the Turkish military actions, but they fail to see what happened before that, how they created the conditions for the Turkish intervention .

Halil, you are quite wrong in stating we do not think beyond 1974. We are more than fully aware Turkey has been tyrannising us for a VERY LONG time before that.

It's just that there are 40,000 Turkish troops still hanging around since 1974.

Bit bloody difficult to think of much else then, wouldn't you say!

Do Turks make a habit of entering their neighbours' houses uninvited and then just hanging around . . . . ooohhh silly me, looks like they do!

A little better than burning down whole villages as in 1963 would you not say...One has a more permanent agenda over the other????

[Pyrpolizer]

Oh another copy paste propaganda article by halil.
Man, I turned myself into a very fast reader lately. Just see who writes and skip it . Also half the posts come from Zan! Skip those too and I am done!

[Get Real!]

Greek Cypriots ignore their responsibilities for past mistakes.

Your community is living on and off stolen land from the Republic, your community collects the dole and myriads of other benefits from the Republic, your community steals electricity from the republic, your Turkish "brothers" have a 400+ year history of death and destruction against the GC people and yet here you are today posting this selfish crap without the slightest feeling of guilt or shame!

They think the conflict started in 1974. They always concentrate on the Turkish military actions, but they fail to see what happened before that, how they created the conditions for the Turkish intervention .

But why stop at a year you find convenient? Why don't you take the ENTIRE 400+ years UTTER CRAP the Greek Cypriots have had to endure from your forefathers? Or is that inconvenient for you?

[zan]

Greek Cypriots ignore their responsibilities for past mistakes.

Your community is living on and off stolen land from the Republic, your community collects the dole and myriads of other benefits from the Republic, your community steals electricity from the republic, your Turkish "brothers" have a 400+ year history of death and destruction against the GC people and yet here you are today posting this selfish crap without the slightest feeling of guilt or shame!

They think the conflict started in 1974. They always concentrate on the Turkish military actions, but they fail to see what happened before that, how they created the conditions for the Turkish intervention .

But why stop at a year you find convenient? Why don't you take the ENTIRE 400+ years UTTER CRAP the Greek Cypriots have had to endure from your forefathers? Or is that inconvenient for you?

One plonker stops with the year dot shit and another starts



I, ME and thousands like me lived the history that we are talking about mate and not some clap trap about your misplaced sentiments about petrified ancestors. Lets start with the living and when that is sorted out you can go lay a reef at the grave of someone you not only did not know but don't give two shits about.... Have you no shame

[denizaksulu]

Greek Cypriots ignore their responsibilities for past mistakes.

Your community is living on and off stolen land from the Republic, your community collects the dole and myriads of other benefits from the Republic, your community steals electricity from the republic, your Turkish "brothers" have a 400+ year history of death and destruction against the GC people and yet here you are today posting this selfish crap without the slightest feeling of guilt or shame!

They think the conflict started in 1974. They always concentrate on the Turkish military actions, but they fail to see what happened before that, how they created the conditions for the Turkish intervention .

But why stop at a year you find convenient? Why don't you take the ENTIRE 400+ years UTTER CRAP the Greek Cypriots have had to endure from your forefathers? Or is that inconvenient for you?

Get Real, The Latin Curch all but extinguished the Orthodox Faith in Cyprus. That it did not extinguish was to the fact that they did not have enough time.
We are regurgitating the same topic over and over again. I suppose its for the new comers. Anyway Cypriots have shown their resilience , both GC and TC over the 400 years.

Regards my friend ..............I await another lecture soon

[Nikitas]

Deniz,

If the one plus in Ottoman occupation was the saving of the church, then I for one would have opted for turning catholic rather than going through the three centuries of Ottoman rule. Not because it was Ottoman, but becaue while it was there the rest of Europe, that is the Catholic world, was in full blown Renaissance and we in Cyprus were in the dark ages. As a non religious person maybe I am not aware of the benefits of having one kind of priest over another. Corfu and the other Ionian islands were under Catholic control during the Ottoman times and they do not seem to have suffered loss of faith etc. Alas there were no choices back then!