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[zan]

And here is the example again:



“PAPADOPULOS CONFESSIONS” FROM KLERIDES
Glafkos Klerides, one of the former leaders of Greek Cypriot Administration of Southern Cyprus, has put off the mask of today’s leader Tassos Papadopulos. Klerides has put forth the fact that Tassos Papadopulos played a big role at the foundation of many problems that have been continuing in Cyprus.

Klerides stated that the Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopulos accepts Cypriot Turks as the minority, adding that he never was convinced to recognise no other rights for Cypriot Turks but minority rights.


Klerides also said that the major parts of the Akritas plan – a plan of Greek Cypriots’ to terminate Cypriot Turks – was written by Papadopulos, and confirmed that he said the infamous sentence of “We will have one hour and 45 minutes to clean up the Turks from Cyprus," during a visit to the American Embassy in 1964.


”What will happen is the recognition of the regime in the North not as a separate sovereignty but on legal grounds”, Klerides also says and adds that, “it will be given for a few years and the separation will come into progress on the base of today’s dividing lines.”


The Greek Cypriot newspaper Politis cited the words of former Greek Cypriot leader Glafkos Klerides about the Cyprus problem published in the book "Glafkos Klerides: The Process of a Country," by Turkish lecturer Niyazi K?z?lyürek from the Greek Cypriot University. The paper wrote that Klerides revealed unknown political facts of the period.


According to the book, Klerides said Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos had never seen the Turkish Cypriots as an independent society and thus never agreed to granting them any rights but those of minorities. "Papadopoulos sees the Turkish Cypriots as a minority," Klerides also reportedly said.


Klerides underlines that the 1960 Constitution was functional, that Turkey’s demand was the implementation of the constitution and in that period extremists from both sides held talks to solve the question.


Klerides says that “Tasos Papadopulos has never recognised Cypriot Turks as a society but he believed that they existed in Cyprus Republic as a minority”.


Klerides also says that Turkey’s military government was affected by the American factor, and since the American factor demanded peace in Cyprus, no doubt, and the soldiers’ policy was the functionality of the constitution.


Klerides also said on the same constitution as follows:


”None of the issues were non-exploitable apart from the tax issues as one of the basic issues. Majority was needed on other issues such as elections and municipal taxes. If this issue of taxes was overcome, the state could work.


Turkish side did not vote in favour of an increase on the income taxes because it would bring an extra burden on the Turkish Cypriots. This problem was suggested to be overcome by a suggestion which would meet the educational outgoings of Cypriot Turks and Greeks.


This solution was agreed at talks held with Cypriot Turks and Turkish side asked for a protocol. The protocol was signed by the President, the Speaker of the Parliament, and the speakers of the congregational parliaments, but Greek Cypriot side demanded for a constitutional change. The demands of Greek Cypriots were more emotional than logical, and the leadership of Greek Cypriots (Archbishop Makarios III, Polikarpos Yorgacis and Tasos Papadopulos) wanted to show people that the constitution was being corrected. Despite the positive views that Greek Cypriots took from abroad on whether the protocol would be valid, this question remained unresolved and what happened in 1964 followed. ”


Papadopulos was Against the Federation...


According to Politis Newspaper, the narration on 1975-1976 incidents is one of the attention attracting points of the book. The negotiator of Greek Cypriot side Glafkos Klerides had accepted a two-society and bipartite federation in Cyprus. Constantine Karamanlis did the same thing.


Tasos Papadopulos and Mihalakis Triantafillidis who accompanied Klerides during the negotiations showed an opposing stance against such a resolution and Makarios faced this dilemma.


Klerides resigned from his post of negotiator when the famous map that Klerides had the initiative to present to Rauf Denkta? was published.


Papadopulos’s “Ethnic Cleansing Plan”


What Klerides said on the Greek Cypriot Adminsitration’s present leader Tassos Papadopulos enlightens the blind eyes that believe peace and solution is possible with Greek Cypriots.


Klerides said Tasos Papadopulos was caught while he was making phone calls with various places on the issue of cleaning up the island from Turks in case of an operation in 1964.



Klerides said that “This was also approved by Yorgacis ve Makarios, they told him that he was pushing them to a position where they would be accused of committing crime but they had views of such.” He also confirmed with these words that Papadopulos had said the infamous sentence of “We will have one hour and 45 minutes to clean up the Turks from Cyprus," during a visit to the American Embassy in 1964”, as told in the book of Makarios Drusiotis.


Akritas Plan is a Work of Papadopulos


Klerides replied to questions on the writing of Akritas plan as follows:


“I believe that most of the work of writing of the plan in question was done by Tasos Papadopulos rather than Polikarpos Yorgacis. Yorgacis did not have the legal opportunity or the level of education to prepare that document. I think that most of the work was carried out by Papadopulos.”


According to the Politis Newspaper, this evaluation of Klerides is not left ungrounded in the book and Klerides for the first time confessed that he joined the organisation that wanted to continue the EOKA struggle in 1960s for a short while.


Spiros Kiprianu also joined the organisation, not as much as Klerides did but the president of the organisation was Polikarpos Yorgacis and Tasos Papadopulos was his deputy.


Papadopulos Always Said “No”


Klerides told on the pre-1974 ear as follows:


“Whenever there was an effort to create cooperation methods between the two societies, Tasos always said that the Turks needed to understand that they were a minority and they were demanding more than the minority rights. Tasos found everything more than classical minority rights that could be demanded by Turkish Cypriots as too much. He did not have an idea of two societies.”

According to Glafkos Klerides, one of the problems of Tassos papadopulos to agree upon the Annan Plan was the plan’s suggestion of political equity of two societies.


The author of the book Niyazi K?z?lyürek said that the solution momentum was lost with the conjuncture came with the European Union membership of Greek Cypriot side, and ended his book with the following words of Klerides:


“What will happen is the recognition of the regime in the North not as a separate sovereignty but on legal grounds”, Klerides also says and adds that, “it will be given for a few years and the separation will come into progress on the base of today’s dividing lines.”

http://www.diplomaticobserver.com/news_read.asp?id=1558


The comments made are testament to what I mean.

[Eric dayi]

Looks like Zan and Hiyar Dayi are getting all panicky that their beloved ex President stole so much GC land, and poor people like T_C aunt did not get any land or place to live and she has to live like a "peasant" in comparison to others who got rewarded with GC land, including the settlers, who are just foreigners. Our good friend did not hold back when he accused the "TRNC" government for being "CUNTS" for not helping his Aunt. Those were T_C's words and not mine, and the 30,000 Donums were also "skippers" words and not mine, but if either one of you go and read everything "skipper" wrote while he was around, he wrote everything with precision and accuracy. Pyro can attest to that. So you two have a problem with the 30,000 Donums that Denktash gave himself, go and complain to "skipper", who happens to be another TC that told the truth about Denktash.

Why is that so hard for you two to accept. ???

People tell lies when they are upset just like you do propbably because you didn;t get any land in the KKTC and was rewarded for your services generously for being the mouthpiece of the GCs (and dancing puppet of course).

Isn't it funny though kiks, anyone who says anything about the Turks and/or Turkish Cypriots always tell the truth in your eyes but dare anyone say anything against the GCs you are always there like a shot to declare them as liars even if they are Greeks or Greek Cypriots.

I have never ever ever ever told Bananiot in what he writes about his people, the GC's as being untrue, so get your facts straight.

What about this kikapoo?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13622

Zan, I do not need to read the words of a man who is trying to sell his book on what he says he knows about PapaD from the 1960's. Everyone who wants to peddle their book always have some "juicy secrets" so excuse me for not going gaga over what the "book pusher" is saying. What I want to know is, what is it that we are doing today to fix the problem and not use the words of a "book pusher" to have more reasons to keep the divide.

Why can't you accept, that Denktash and his cronies were after only to enrich themselves and screw everyone else, which brings up the question, as to why for the first 30 years after 1974, there was no urgency by the TC's to get any kind of peace settlement with the GC's.

We TCs are in no hurry to become second class citizens in our own country and believe the lies of a GC mouth piece like you.

Do you think Denktash was trying to protect his "ill gotten bounty" by any chance.???

Prove your claim with facts and not he said she said and I'll believe you. Until then you are just a GC mouth piece spreading GC venom, GC propaganda and GC lies.

[Viewpoint]

How many points do I get? If I get enough points will I get the snake island house?

You got to admit, something stinks in this land business no matter which way you look at it and how is involved.

The settlers got homes and land for free...there was so much around standing empty that they were invited to come live here to work and support the economy.

[paliometoxo]

in your own country??? your own country is TURKEY not cyprus why do you turkish think cyprus is turkish u people dont belong here

[zan]

in your own country??? your own country is TURKEY not cyprus why do you turkish think cyprus is turkish u people dont belong here

There you gooooooooo!!!

[MR-from-NG]

in your own country??? your own country is TURKEY not cyprus why do you turkish think cyprus is turkish u people dont belong here

So says the village idiot

[zan]

in your own country??? your own country is TURKEY not cyprus why do you turkish think cyprus is turkish u people dont belong here

So says the village idiot

I think he might be just the apprentice

[Kikapu]

Looks like Zan and Hiyar Dayi are getting all panicky that their beloved ex President stole so much GC land, and poor people like T_C aunt did not get any land or place to live and she has to live like a "peasant" in comparison to others who got rewarded with GC land, including the settlers, who are just foreigners. Our good friend did not hold back when he accused the "TRNC" government for being "CUNTS" for not helping his Aunt. Those were T_C's words and not mine, and the 30,000 Donums were also "skippers" words and not mine, but if either one of you go and read everything "skipper" wrote while he was around, he wrote everything with precision and accuracy. Pyro can attest to that. So you two have a problem with the 30,000 Donums that Denktash gave himself, go and complain to "skipper", who happens to be another TC that told the truth about Denktash.

Why is that so hard for you two to accept. ???

People tell lies when they are upset just like you do propbably because you didn;t get any land in the KKTC and was rewarded for your services generously for being the mouthpiece of the GCs (and dancing puppet of course).

Isn't it funny though kiks, anyone who says anything about the Turks and/or Turkish Cypriots always tell the truth in your eyes but dare anyone say anything against the GCs you are always there like a shot to declare them as liars even if they are Greeks or Greek Cypriots.

I have never ever ever ever told Bananiot in what he writes about his people, the GC's as being untrue, so get your facts straight.

What about this kikapoo?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13622

Zan, I do not need to read the words of a man who is trying to sell his book on what he says he knows about PapaD from the 1960's. Everyone who wants to peddle their book always have some "juicy secrets" so excuse me for not going gaga over what the "book pusher" is saying. What I want to know is, what is it that we are doing today to fix the problem and not use the words of a "book pusher" to have more reasons to keep the divide.

Why can't you accept, that Denktash and his cronies were after only to enrich themselves and screw everyone else, which brings up the question, as to why for the first 30 years after 1974, there was no urgency by the TC's to get any kind of peace settlement with the GC's.

We TCs are in no hurry to become second class citizens in our own country and believe the lies of a GC mouth piece like you.

Do you think Denktash was trying to protect his "ill gotten bounty" by any chance.???

Prove your claim with facts and not he said she said and I'll believe you. Until then you are just a GC mouth piece spreading GC venom, GC propaganda and GC lies.

Well, I guess our well educated TC friend "skipper" must also be a GC mouth piece, and since BigOz did not deny it when I brought the subject up regarding Denktash, he must also be a GC mouth piece.!!

So Hiyar Dayi, the only TC patriot left must be you, Zan and VP.

[zan]

Looks like Zan and Hiyar Dayi are getting all panicky that their beloved ex President stole so much GC land, and poor people like T_C aunt did not get any land or place to live and she has to live like a "peasant" in comparison to others who got rewarded with GC land, including the settlers, who are just foreigners. Our good friend did not hold back when he accused the "TRNC" government for being "CUNTS" for not helping his Aunt. Those were T_C's words and not mine, and the 30,000 Donums were also "skippers" words and not mine, but if either one of you go and read everything "skipper" wrote while he was around, he wrote everything with precision and accuracy. Pyro can attest to that. So you two have a problem with the 30,000 Donums that Denktash gave himself, go and complain to "skipper", who happens to be another TC that told the truth about Denktash.

Why is that so hard for you two to accept. ???

People tell lies when they are upset just like you do propbably because you didn;t get any land in the KKTC and was rewarded for your services generously for being the mouthpiece of the GCs (and dancing puppet of course).

Isn't it funny though kiks, anyone who says anything about the Turks and/or Turkish Cypriots always tell the truth in your eyes but dare anyone say anything against the GCs you are always there like a shot to declare them as liars even if they are Greeks or Greek Cypriots.

I have never ever ever ever told Bananiot in what he writes about his people, the GC's as being untrue, so get your facts straight.

What about this kikapoo?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13622

Zan, I do not need to read the words of a man who is trying to sell his book on what he says he knows about PapaD from the 1960's. Everyone who wants to peddle their book always have some "juicy secrets" so excuse me for not going gaga over what the "book pusher" is saying. What I want to know is, what is it that we are doing today to fix the problem and not use the words of a "book pusher" to have more reasons to keep the divide.

Why can't you accept, that Denktash and his cronies were after only to enrich themselves and screw everyone else, which brings up the question, as to why for the first 30 years after 1974, there was no urgency by the TC's to get any kind of peace settlement with the GC's.

We TCs are in no hurry to become second class citizens in our own country and believe the lies of a GC mouth piece like you.

Do you think Denktash was trying to protect his "ill gotten bounty" by any chance.???

Prove your claim with facts and not he said she said and I'll believe you. Until then you are just a GC mouth piece spreading GC venom, GC propaganda and GC lies.

Well, I guess our well educated TC friend "skipper" must also be a GC mouth piece, and since BigOz did not deny it when I brought the subject up regarding Denktash, he must also be a GC mouth piece.!!

So Hiyar Dayi, the only TC patriot left must be you, Zan and VP.

What we do is only comment on things we know about Kiks and you should try it as well. BigOZ might not have known so he did not deny it...can that be a possible answer to your deluded question....I am beginning to sound as childish and desperate as you here but I need to know that you are capable of taking in one piece of information about the TC people that has a positive outlook for you.

[Eric dayi]

Looks like Zan and Hiyar Dayi are getting all panicky that their beloved ex President stole so much GC land, and poor people like T_C aunt did not get any land or place to live and she has to live like a "peasant" in comparison to others who got rewarded with GC land, including the settlers, who are just foreigners. Our good friend did not hold back when he accused the "TRNC" government for being "CUNTS" for not helping his Aunt. Those were T_C's words and not mine, and the 30,000 Donums were also "skippers" words and not mine, but if either one of you go and read everything "skipper" wrote while he was around, he wrote everything with precision and accuracy. Pyro can attest to that. So you two have a problem with the 30,000 Donums that Denktash gave himself, go and complain to "skipper", who happens to be another TC that told the truth about Denktash.

Why is that so hard for you two to accept. ???

People tell lies when they are upset just like you do propbably because you didn;t get any land in the KKTC and was rewarded for your services generously for being the mouthpiece of the GCs (and dancing puppet of course).

Isn't it funny though kiks, anyone who says anything about the Turks and/or Turkish Cypriots always tell the truth in your eyes but dare anyone say anything against the GCs you are always there like a shot to declare them as liars even if they are Greeks or Greek Cypriots.

I have never ever ever ever told Bananiot in what he writes about his people, the GC's as being untrue, so get your facts straight.

What about this kikapoo?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13622

Zan, I do not need to read the words of a man who is trying to sell his book on what he says he knows about PapaD from the 1960's. Everyone who wants to peddle their book always have some "juicy secrets" so excuse me for not going gaga over what the "book pusher" is saying. What I want to know is, what is it that we are doing today to fix the problem and not use the words of a "book pusher" to have more reasons to keep the divide.

Why can't you accept, that Denktash and his cronies were after only to enrich themselves and screw everyone else, which brings up the question, as to why for the first 30 years after 1974, there was no urgency by the TC's to get any kind of peace settlement with the GC's.

We TCs are in no hurry to become second class citizens in our own country and believe the lies of a GC mouth piece like you.

Do you think Denktash was trying to protect his "ill gotten bounty" by any chance.???

Prove your claim with facts and not he said she said and I'll believe you. Until then you are just a GC mouth piece spreading GC venom, GC propaganda and GC lies.

Well, I guess our well educated TC friend "skipper" must also be a GC mouth piece, and since BigOz did not deny it when I brought the subject up regarding Denktash, he must also be a GC mouth piece.!!

Where is your proof kikapoo?

Proof kikapoo, proof...put up or STFU.

So Hiyar Dayi, the only TC patriot left must be you, Zan and VP.

Is it? What about all those who are still in the TRNC and do not follow your lead as the head lemming, hmmm?