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Postby Nikitas » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:33 pm

Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:50 pm

Nikitas wrote:Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?


Do you believe it Nikitas ? Thirty thousand donums ?

Does anybody knows how many donum is Northern part of the island ?

İ know he did get a land but i don't know whose land it is and how many donums he left at southern part of the İsland.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:54 pm

Kikapu , of course i asked same question about my own community . we felt responsibility and gathered at Atatürk Square and scream for peace in Cyprus

:lol:

İ told u before and i will say again to understand our feelings you must stay in here and experience everything with yourself.

you mean the gatherings at the square? :lol:

halil, how can you want the partnership as per 60 agreements and then govern yourself...me thinks you are contradicting your self...admit it you want partition...
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:00 pm

Well Halil,

Can we, you and me, be next in line to get some land? Everyone else seems to be getting something, I am beginning to feel a little left out. Maybe we can share the land that Denktash left behind. I always liked Paphos, prefer it to Kyrenia. We could start a vineyard, or any business other than tourism, no tourism for me, and no land development.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:07 pm

Nikitas wrote:Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?


Nikitas,

Just for you, I went and found what was written a while back by a very knowledgeable TC member by the name "skipper". This is what he had to say.

skipper wrote:
It's a nice conspiracy theory but people got fed up with Denktas as it became clearer and clearer that he was only after power to line his own pockets and that a non solution suited him. For example, it's said that 30,000 donums of land has been given to him! no one believes he his family had that much land.. Second example, for years he said anyone caught obtaining a RoC passport would be put in prison and then what happens after the gates open? he tells his grandchildren that it's their "right" to get one just so that they could save a few thousand pounds in university fees, that one was a big shock to alot of people. I could go on, but trust me alot of people here would love to see him tried and even hanged.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus10003-40.html




Everytime I bring this 30,000 Donums into a discussion, not one TC has ever yet to dispute it.

It must tell you something.
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Postby zan » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:21 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?


Nikitas,

Just for you, I went and found what was written a while back by a very knowledgeable TC member by the name "skipper". This is what he had to say.

skipper wrote:
It's a nice conspiracy theory but people got fed up with Denktas as it became clearer and clearer that he was only after power to line his own pockets and that a non solution suited him. For example, it's said that 30,000 donums of land has been given to him! no one believes he his family had that much land.. Second example, for years he said anyone caught obtaining a RoC passport would be put in prison and then what happens after the gates open? he tells his grandchildren that it's their "right" to get one just so that they could save a few thousand pounds in university fees, that one was a big shock to alot of people. I could go on, but trust me alot of people here would love to see him tried and even hanged.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus10003-40.html




Everytime I bring this 30,000 Donums into a discussion, not one TC has ever yet to dispute it.

It must tell you something.


Leave t to you to prove it...What are your sources????? None! Well put up or shut up.........I learned that from y GC cousins...... :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:30 pm

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?


Nikitas,

Just for you, I went and found what was written a while back by a very knowledgeable TC member by the name "skipper". This is what he had to say.

skipper wrote:
It's a nice conspiracy theory but people got fed up with Denktas as it became clearer and clearer that he was only after power to line his own pockets and that a non solution suited him. For example, it's said that 30,000 donums of land has been given to him! no one believes he his family had that much land.. Second example, for years he said anyone caught obtaining a RoC passport would be put in prison and then what happens after the gates open? he tells his grandchildren that it's their "right" to get one just so that they could save a few thousand pounds in university fees, that one was a big shock to alot of people. I could go on, but trust me alot of people here would love to see him tried and even hanged.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus10003-40.html




Everytime I bring this 30,000 Donums into a discussion, not one TC has ever yet to dispute it.

It must tell you something.


Leave t to you to prove it...What are your sources????? None! Well put up or shut up.........I learned that from y GC cousins...... :wink:


Are you calling "skipper" a liar Zan. My my my, all this time you have never disputed these numbers, but all of a sudden you want to. Even BigOz did not dispute these numbers when I asked him not too long ago. Is he also a liar Zan.??

What's the matter Zan, are you just a little bit disappointed in your Great Hero, the founder of the "TRNC", that he is a crook and peace with him was never an option.

Oh, how painful it must be for you to hear the truth from me because I ask questions from my community, where as you just want to point fingers at others.
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Postby zan » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:38 pm

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?


Nikitas,

Just for you, I went and found what was written a while back by a very knowledgeable TC member by the name "skipper". This is what he had to say.

skipper wrote:
It's a nice conspiracy theory but people got fed up with Denktas as it became clearer and clearer that he was only after power to line his own pockets and that a non solution suited him. For example, it's said that 30,000 donums of land has been given to him! no one believes he his family had that much land.. Second example, for years he said anyone caught obtaining a RoC passport would be put in prison and then what happens after the gates open? he tells his grandchildren that it's their "right" to get one just so that they could save a few thousand pounds in university fees, that one was a big shock to alot of people. I could go on, but trust me alot of people here would love to see him tried and even hanged.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus10003-40.html




Everytime I bring this 30,000 Donums into a discussion, not one TC has ever yet to dispute it.

It must tell you something.


Leave t to you to prove it...What are your sources????? None! Well put up or shut up.........I learned that from y GC cousins...... :wink:


Are you calling "skipper" a liar Zan. My my my, all this time you have never disputed these numbers, but all of a sudden you want to. Even BigOz did not dispute these numbers when I asked him not too long ago. Is he also a liar Zan.??

What's the matter Zan, are you just a little bit disappointed in your Great Hero, the founder of the "TRNC", that he is a crook and peace with him was never an option.

Oh, how painful it must be for you to hear the truth from me because I ask questions from my community, where as you just want to point fingers at others.



Prove it and then we can talk...I am not the one that is disputing anything.....Go on...Give it a go.....You were much more keen to save Tpap's neck though weren't you...Much more proof there but still you try... :roll:
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Denktash took 30 000 donums!!!! That is 30 square kilometers, that is a LOT OF LAND. Given the principle of equlity does that mean we are all going to get an equal parcel of land under the eventual settlement? Just joking.

But seriously- did Denktash get land, any land as a gift? Whose land did he get?


Nikitas,

Just for you, I went and found what was written a while back by a very knowledgeable TC member by the name "skipper". This is what he had to say.

skipper wrote:
It's a nice conspiracy theory but people got fed up with Denktas as it became clearer and clearer that he was only after power to line his own pockets and that a non solution suited him. For example, it's said that 30,000 donums of land has been given to him! no one believes he his family had that much land.. Second example, for years he said anyone caught obtaining a RoC passport would be put in prison and then what happens after the gates open? he tells his grandchildren that it's their "right" to get one just so that they could save a few thousand pounds in university fees, that one was a big shock to alot of people. I could go on, but trust me alot of people here would love to see him tried and even hanged.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus10003-40.html




Everytime I bring this 30,000 Donums into a discussion, not one TC has ever yet to dispute it.

It must tell you something.



above link is not evidence ,

u must show evidence . i can write or say anything without provement it is useless .

i did little search

İn TRNC:
GC Land :1.088.793 Donum (included Church properties)
TC Land :365.368 Donum (İnc. Evkaf )
Public:484.605 Donum
Other :4.153
Total :1.942.919

İn ROC :
GC Land :3.029.935
TC Land :466.960
Public :1.271.958
other:15.119
Total:4.785.974
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Postby halil » Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:42 pm

it is only information:
Appendix I
VIENNA III AGREEMENT– 2 AUGUST 1975 (UN DOCUMENT S/11789)
1. The Turkish Cypriots at present in the South of the Island will be allowed, if they want to do so, to proceed North with their belongings under an organized programme and with the assistance of UNFICYP.
2. Mr. Denktash reaffirmed, and it was agreed, that the Greek Cypriots at present in the North of the Island are free to stay and that they will be given every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and freedom of movement in the North.
3. The Greek Cypriots at present in the North who, at their own request and without having been subjected to any kind of pressure, wish to move to the South will be permitted to do so.
4. UNFICYP will have free and normal access to Greek Cypriot villages and habitations in the North.
5. In connection with the implementation of the above agreement priority will be given to the re-unification of families, which may also involve the transfer of a number of Greek Cypriots, at present in the South, to the North.
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