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Re: What can Turkish Cypriots do for Cyprus?

Postby miltiades » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:01 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:“Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”

- Words from the inaugural address of President John F. Kennedy, delivered in 1961.


What can Turkish Cypriots do for their country Cyprus?

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they can go back home where they came from and leave us alone insteading causing problems for our island


Sorry for getting in the way of your bullets and ENOSIS mate..... :cry:



Paliometoxo: are you thick or something. Cyprus is our home whether you like it or not. Deal withit.

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Deniz , ofcourse Cyprus is your home and it is the home of all Cypriots , but it most certainly isn't the home of the foreign VP and Eric the clown.These morons are the reason our people have suffered so much , morons like the two mentioned above who are bloody useless to Cyprus and to them selves. The same applies to all those who embrace a foreign nation and swear their allegiance to them. You are , just as I'm , a Cypriot , not part of a minority or a majority but a Cypriot.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:05 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
I am glad you brought that up kikapoo, nope, they didn't, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stop making a fool of your self or else I will do a Kik-a-poo on you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only person kikapoo is able to kikapoo is kikapoo himself and no one else. But kikapoo likes believe that he can kikapoo on everyone because kekapoo thinks he is the king of kikapoos.

Now, that kikappo is the king of kikapoos who can't kiakpoo on anyone except kikapoo himself....I believe.

Hail to kiakpoo the king of kikapoos.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hiyar Dayi, you seem to have gotten a Kik-a-poo hiccup in your throat. :lol: :lol:
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Re: What can Turkish Cypriots do for Cyprus?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:09 pm

miltiades wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:“Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”

- Words from the inaugural address of President John F. Kennedy, delivered in 1961.


What can Turkish Cypriots do for their country Cyprus?

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they can go back home where they came from and leave us alone insteading causing problems for our island


Sorry for getting in the way of your bullets and ENOSIS mate..... :cry:



Paliometoxo: are you thick or something. Cyprus is our home whether you like it or not. Deal withit.

Regards


Deniz , ofcourse Cyprus is your home and it is the home of all Cypriots , but it most certainly isn't the home of the foreign VP and Eric the clown.These morons are the reason our people have suffered so much , morons like the two mentioned above who are bloody useless to Cyprus and to them selves. The same applies to all those who embrace a foreign nation and swear their allegiance to them. You are , just as I'm , a Cypriot , not part of a minority or a majority but a Cypriot.


You are the one who is dangerous to all Cypriots leading them blindly to a utopia that does not exsist from the armchair of your Surrey home. The we are all Cypriots crap you spout out thinking you are holier than thou equals 80% absorbing 20% forcing TCs to speak Greek in a GC state run by GCs for GCs, where fanatics will run riot and set off bombs that will explode while you laugh at us from the safety of thousands of miles away, thanks a bunch but no thanks. viva la TRNC.
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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:13 pm

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I am glad you brought that up kikapoo, nope, they didn't, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stop making a fool of your self or else I will do a Kik-a-poo on you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only person kikapoo is able to kikapoo is kikapoo himself and no one else. But kikapoo likes believe that he can kikapoo on everyone because kekapoo thinks he is the king of kikapoos.

Now, that kikappo is the king of kikapoos who can't kiakpoo on anyone except kikapoo himself....I believe.

Hail to kiakpoo the king of kikapoos.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hiyar Dayi, you seem to have gotten a Kik-a-poo hiccup in your throat. :lol: :lol:


Come back with something that can earn you brownie point from your paymasters kikapoo, you can also do little jig for them if you like. I'm sure they'll love it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: What can Turkish Cypriots do for Cyprus?

Postby Eric dayi » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:15 pm

miltiades wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:“Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”

- Words from the inaugural address of President John F. Kennedy, delivered in 1961.


What can Turkish Cypriots do for their country Cyprus?

Image



they can go back home where they came from and leave us alone insteading causing problems for our island


Sorry for getting in the way of your bullets and ENOSIS mate..... :cry:



Paliometoxo: are you thick or something. Cyprus is our home whether you like it or not. Deal withit.

Regards


Deniz , ofcourse Cyprus is your home and it is the home of all Cypriots , but it most certainly isn't the home of the foreign VP and Eric the clown.These morons are the reason our people have suffered so much , morons like the two mentioned above who are bloody useless to Cyprus and to them selves. The same applies to all those who embrace a foreign nation and swear their allegiance to them. You are , just as I'm , a Cypriot , not part of a minority or a majority but a Cypriot.


'ey up, the senile old fool is back talking crap as usual. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:24 pm

You must really have no life no matter what country your living in Eric, Zan, and Vp. Mostly every post you guys make have to deal with fear, and thats all you guys ever think about when cornered. How do you guys deal with pressures back wherever you live? And how do you deal with them because I have every reason to believe that you guys close your eyes to your problems and blame everyone else for your low ambitions.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:25 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
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Eric dayi wrote:
I am glad you brought that up kikapoo, nope, they didn't, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Stop making a fool of your self or else I will do a Kik-a-poo on you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only person kikapoo is able to kikapoo is kikapoo himself and no one else. But kikapoo likes believe that he can kikapoo on everyone because kekapoo thinks he is the king of kikapoos.

Now, that kikappo is the king of kikapoos who can't kiakpoo on anyone except kikapoo himself....I believe.

Hail to kiakpoo the king of kikapoos.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Hiyar Dayi, you seem to have gotten a Kik-a-poo hiccup in your throat. :lol: :lol:


Come back with something that can earn you brownie point from your paymasters kikapoo, you can also do little jig for them if you like. I'm sure they'll love it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You really do lack imagination Hiyar Dayi to say anything meaningful or even with a little originality. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat the same old Poo which seems to be the trade mark for the Partitionist. :lol:

I swear you people must be boring and lead a dull lives. :cry: :cry:

The only time you think you can excel yourself, is to come on here and talk Poo all night, and you can't even do that right. :lol:

There really is no cure for you people. :cry: :cry:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:28 pm

growuptcs wrote:You must really have no life no matter what country your living in Eric, Zan, and Vp. Mostly every post you guys make have to deal with fear, and thats all you guys ever think about when cornered. How do you guys deal with pressures back wherever you live? And how do you deal with them because I have every reason to believe that you guys close your eyes to your problems and blame everyone else for your low ambitions.


I live in the TRNC where the pressure levels are low and life is at a slow pace, what are you getting at growup? fear cornered pressure low ambitions??? are you derranged or just normally this way?
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Postby DT. » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
growuptcs wrote:You must really have no life no matter what country your living in Eric, Zan, and Vp. Mostly every post you guys make have to deal with fear, and thats all you guys ever think about when cornered. How do you guys deal with pressures back wherever you live? And how do you deal with them because I have every reason to believe that you guys close your eyes to your problems and blame everyone else for your low ambitions.


I live in the TRNC where the pressure levels are low and life is at a slow pace, what are you getting at growup? fear cornered pressure low ambitions??? are you derranged or just normally this way?


Watch out VP...life's about to get a lot slower over there..

This is a letter from Aga Buyers Action Group to the People Of The TRNC, North Cyprus & Northern Cyprus explaining the actions of Aga Buyers Action Group and how the TRNC Government could stop this action by simply sorting out our problems and having our monies refunded.
To The People of the TRNC, North Cyprus, Northern Cyprus




We are a group of British housewives, and their families, who it would appear are causing an upset to the Construction Industry in the beautiful TRNC. Well, we are here to try to explain ourselves and hope that you understand the reasoning behind our actions.





For many years now, some since 2003, we have been waiting for either our properties to be built or a refund of our monies paid. We are all the victims of AGA Development/Gary John Robb/Tahir Soycan and numerous other Directors of AGA which currently include Cafer Gurcafer, Head of the Cyprus Turkish Building Contractors Association. We were sold villas marketed by the sales team of Unwins Estate Agents. The villas were going to be built by AGA Developments. Both these companies have British and Turkish Cypriot Directors. We were all guided legally by Turkish Cypriot lawyers as to land issues, deeds, Contracts etc.





We have given these persons over 4 years now to put right the wrongs they have caused, and we have been completely ignored. Back in April 2007 we handed in a request by over 150 AGA buyers for help from Mr Soyer - we heard nothing from his office. We have put in our complaints to the Government's Property Complaints Office, but to date none of the complaints has resulted in a refund or other solution from this Government Dept. We have written thousands of letters and emails to anyone we thought would listen, and again hit a brick wall from within the Government of the TRNC. We have visited TRNC offices in the UK and Cyprus and met with lawyers and many officials only to find a wall of silence from within the TRNC. But the interesting fact is that in all this time while looking for justice, not only for ourselves but all AGA victims, we have unwittingly collated documented evidence of high level corruption which we will at some stage release into the public domain.





We are predominantly three families who are now in serious financial trouble with no light at the end of the tunnel for the return of our monies. We are not property developers, millionaires or business people, just three ordinary families who fell in love with the TRNC and wanted to put some “roots” there. We have been accused of “cashing-in” on cheap property, but, the price that we were paying at that time was no different to those in the rest of the EU. We all fell in love with the TRNC because it is unspoilt and has some of the friendliest people in the world, warm and helpful and welcoming. However, the island is a magnet to criminals and their activities, and this has been to the cost of the TRNC and its own people, not only us. Ask yourselves how these people manage to buy the biggest houses on the island and drive the most expensive cars? You do not see the average Turkish Cypriot in a Ferrari or an equally expensive 4 x 4, no, the ordinary people of Northern Cyprus struggle to find work and keep a roof over their heads - the same as ordinary people in the rest of Europe. Could this be due to the high level corruption that we have seen to exist in the TRNC? We do not wish to interrupt the business dealings of those honest business people who promote all that is good in the TRNC, but unless we make ourselves heard we will continue to be ignored and lose everything we have worked hard for in our lives. Interest rates in Britain are rising fast and we are all paying a huge amount of money every month for something that we do not have and are unlikely to have, whilst various directors of AGA take delivery of brand new cars on a regular basis.





You may ask yourselves as to why we have not taken the legal route in the TRNC. The straight answer to that is we have. One of our group actually has a Judgment, which was granted in April 2005. To date they cannot get anyone to enforce this Judgment. You have to ask why no one can enforce this Judgment?? We have evidence of three lawyers that cannot seem to enforce it. Another has been awaiting a Judgment since Oct 2005 - this family are still awaiting news on this Judgment after 2 years. We therefore have very little faith in the legal system of the TRNC, and now the British High Commission has stepped in to monitor the effectiveness of this legal system - to see if in fact it does exist for ordinary people, or is it a one-way street for those in good favour of the TRNC Government or other influential type bodies that seem to exist within Northern Cyprus?? Time will tell, we hope to be proved wrong.





We as AGA BUYERS ACTION GROUP cannot afford to be still and quiet any longer, we are fighting for the survival of our families. Our families are suffering and we want a stable family life just like everybody does. All we ask is for a refund of what we have paid, what has been stolen from us. We are starting to make waves now; this wave we hope will become a tsunami as our media campaign grows. Why is the Government so short sighted? Why can’t the Government see that we could also be a bonus to the TRNC and promote it as a safe haven in which to purchase a property? We could help the Tourist Industry to boom again, we have gained the knowledge and the experience to do this, but unless we are being seen to be helped, we can only fight for what is rightfully ours, and this in conclusion could have a wider implication on damaging the TRNC economy. We do not want to hurt anybody, especially innocent people like ourselves who are just trying to make the best of their lives. So we apologise to the innocent people of the TRNC but we hope that you understand from what we have said, our need to be seen and heard; after all we are only trying to safeguard our futures and as a lioness does, protect her pride from danger.





The Northern Cyprus Government must shoulder a lot of blame regarding the corruption. They know the outcome of Police Investigations into missing funds regarding AGA, and have not published anything, or indeed not one person has been brought to justice for what they have done to both UK and Turkish Cypriot people, this is not ACCEPTABLE IN ANY CIVILIZED SOCIETY. We urge Ferdi Sabit Soyer, Prime Minister of the TRNC, to stand by his statement that the construction sector is important to him and that "FOREIGNERS CAN KEEP CONFIDENCE...AND MAY COMFORTABLY PURCHASE HOUSES FROM THIS COUNTRY". If this is not the case, Mr Soyer and his Government should issue a statement to that effect so people are aware that there is no TRNC commitment to its foreign buyers and its construction industry. If you wish to see the full extract of the publication, "North Cyprus, A Comprehensive Guide to Buying Your Home, by the Cyprus Turkish Building Contractors Association". where Mr Soyer, and other officials make promises they appear to not want to keep, please contact us at the below PO Box number or at [email protected] e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it . It will be our pleasure to send this to you. The same publication states that if members of the Association do not adhere to its strict standards "THE PENALTY THAT THE LAW REQUIRES IS IMPRISONMENT". AGA Developments Limited is listed as a member - as far as we are aware not one Director has been prosecuted with any offence, even though hundreds of people have lost millions of UK pounds. They are allowed to walk freely while their customers suffer.








If anyone has any information that could help us in our plight to expose any corruption, information that we can add to that which we already have, you can send it anonymously to:





AGA BUYERS ACTION GROUP


P.O.

BOX 261

LEEDS


LS16 0BZ


United Kingdom





Our very best regards to you all and thank you for listening to us.





Aga Buyers Action Group


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Ahmet Cagacar & Family
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:36 pm

Why are you snapping at me for pointing out the words that descibe yourself best, when you argue about your fears. Am I derranged for thinking this way in the crap you go on about? Thats what I think about you. Now tell me, am I lying?
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