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[Eric dayi]

Zan, it was what was happening during it that interests me. If it is such a choking experience for Turkish Cypriots to live in a Greek dominated culture how come they managed to do just that during the British rule? Most of the civils service was Greek run, and Greek was spoken then as it is now. Why was it not intolerable then?

Greek "run" at the time did not mean Greek "rule" they had to abide by the rules and regulations of the rulers of the country at the time. Greek rule now would mean that they can do what they couldn't manage to do from 1963 to 1974.

The British did not hate us TCs and didn't want to genocide us. The GCs did and do hate us enough to have wanted to genocide us TCs and still hate us enough to to have another go should they get to be the sole rulers of Cyprus.

One more thing, Greek was not spoken in the whole of Cyprus then and it is not spoken all over Cyprus today either. Then, as it is now, there were hell of a lot of TCs who could not speak the Greek language.

In a Greek ruled country all TCs would be forced to learn Greek and would not have a choice.

Even the most uneducated TC person who could not read and write Greek or Turkish, spoke Greek up until 1963. Only after 1963 the young TC's were not exposed to the Greek language as it had been for the last 400 years or so.

Where the hell have you been Hiyar Dayi.???

You are a liar and your lies can be proven without any problems Kikapoo. The only ones who could speak Greek were those living mostly in villages where Greeks were in the majority. In Turkish side of Nicosia there were thousands who could not speak Greek to save their lives.


I personally know many, many TCs who were born in the 40's-50's who can't speak at all.

Go dig up some other lies kikapoo, you ain't getting nowhere with this one.

[DT.]

Genocide is one mighty big word. Must remind ourselves that the UN force commander in 1964, February if I am not mistaken, spoke of casualties at about 100 on either side. Far cry from genocide.

But to get back to the thread- what can Turkish Cypriots do for Cyprus, what can they do?

100 people from either side Nikitas. Eric simply uses Turkish mathematics and logic.

It makes 100 people 100,000
It makes an apparent plan on paper, happen when it didn't.
It makes the GC refugees land and TC land left behind of equal number.
It conducts a war with 40,000 troops who managed to only kill one GC general and an annoying sergeant. Everyone else was spared and helped back to safety.
It requires 18% of the population to have 50% of the voting power
It requires 18% of the populatiion to live on 37%of the land.
It makes a majority population of settlers in the north a small sasonal workforce minority numbering few thousands.
It thinks GC's are stupid.

[denizaksulu]

Genocide is one mighty big word. Must remind ourselves that the UN force commander in 1964, February if I am not mistaken, spoke of casualties at about 100 on either side. Far cry from genocide.

But to get back to the thread- what can Turkish Cypriots do for Cyprus, what can they do?

They can import more settlers in and make the GCs a minority.

Ok, its a stupid answer to an even stupider question?

Now now Deniz........You have eaten too much again and have given yourself indigestion again haven't you!!!!

Its Ramazan now. I tend to eat more than I ought to. I dont get too much indigestion though. Half a glass of Raki takes care of that.

Makes me wish I liked the stuff

Purely medicinal my friend, just medicinal. Am I repeating myself, myself, and seeing double too. My tummys' OK though. Amen

[Eric dayi]

Zan, it was what was happening during it that interests me. If it is such a choking experience for Turkish Cypriots to live in a Greek dominated culture how come they managed to do just that during the British rule? Most of the civils service was Greek run, and Greek was spoken then as it is now. Why was it not intolerable then?

Greek "run" at the time did not mean Greek "rule" they had to abide by the rules and regulations of the rulers of the country at the time. Greek rule now would mean that they can do what they couldn't manage to do from 1963 to 1974.

The British did not hate us TCs and didn't want to genocide us. The GCs did and do hate us enough to have wanted to genocide us TCs and still hate us enough to to have another go should they get to be the sole rulers of Cyprus.

One more thing, Greek was not spoken in the whole of Cyprus then and it is not spoken all over Cyprus today either. Then, as it is now, there were hell of a lot of TCs who could not speak the Greek language.

In a Greek ruled country all TCs would be forced to learn Greek and would not have a choice.

Even the most uneducated TC person who could not read and write Greek or Turkish, spoke Greek up until 1963. Only after 1963 the young TC's were not exposed to the Greek language as it had been for the last 400 years or so.

Where the hell have you been Hiyar Dayi.???

The Greek Language was on the curriculum of Turkish Secondary Schools till 1959 . Unfortunately the zealots had it removed from Secondary Schools.

Was the Turkish language in the curriculum of the GC schools Deniz or did the zealots not allow it in the first place?

How short sighted could one be. In the end it was our loss. We might have had less misunderstandings between us had it remained.

If they didn't want us to misunderstand them why didn't they learn Turkish so that they can explain it to us in our own language Deniz?

[DT.]

Zan, it was what was happening during it that interests me. If it is such a choking experience for Turkish Cypriots to live in a Greek dominated culture how come they managed to do just that during the British rule? Most of the civils service was Greek run, and Greek was spoken then as it is now. Why was it not intolerable then?

Greek "run" at the time did not mean Greek "rule" they had to abide by the rules and regulations of the rulers of the country at the time. Greek rule now would mean that they can do what they couldn't manage to do from 1963 to 1974.

The British did not hate us TCs and didn't want to genocide us. The GCs did and do hate us enough to have wanted to genocide us TCs and still hate us enough to to have another go should they get to be the sole rulers of Cyprus.

One more thing, Greek was not spoken in the whole of Cyprus then and it is not spoken all over Cyprus today either. Then, as it is now, there were hell of a lot of TCs who could not speak the Greek language.

In a Greek ruled country all TCs would be forced to learn Greek and would not have a choice.

Even the most uneducated TC person who could not read and write Greek or Turkish, spoke Greek up until 1963. Only after 1963 the young TC's were not exposed to the Greek language as it had been for the last 400 years or so.

Where the hell have you been Hiyar Dayi.???

The Greek Language was on the curriculum of Turkish Secondary Schools till 1959 . Unfortunately the zealots had it removed from Secondary Schools.

Was the Turkish language in the curriculum of the GC schools Deniz or did the zealots not allow it in the first place?

How short sighted could one be. In the end it was our loss. We might have had less misunderstandings between us had it remained.

If they didn't want us to misunderstand them why didn't they learn Turkish so that they can explain it to us in our own language Deniz?

everyone from my mothers side includeing parents brothers and sisters knew fluent Turkish in Morphou. Was your family not smart enough to learn Greek?

[utu]

If there is going to be an argument regarding language, then find one you can agree on: English, French, or how about Esperanto?

[denizaksulu]

Zan, it was what was happening during it that interests me. If it is such a choking experience for Turkish Cypriots to live in a Greek dominated culture how come they managed to do just that during the British rule? Most of the civils service was Greek run, and Greek was spoken then as it is now. Why was it not intolerable then?

Greek "run" at the time did not mean Greek "rule" they had to abide by the rules and regulations of the rulers of the country at the time. Greek rule now would mean that they can do what they couldn't manage to do from 1963 to 1974.

The British did not hate us TCs and didn't want to genocide us. The GCs did and do hate us enough to have wanted to genocide us TCs and still hate us enough to to have another go should they get to be the sole rulers of Cyprus.

One more thing, Greek was not spoken in the whole of Cyprus then and it is not spoken all over Cyprus today either. Then, as it is now, there were hell of a lot of TCs who could not speak the Greek language.

In a Greek ruled country all TCs would be forced to learn Greek and would not have a choice.

Even the most uneducated TC person who could not read and write Greek or Turkish, spoke Greek up until 1963. Only after 1963 the young TC's were not exposed to the Greek language as it had been for the last 400 years or so.

Where the hell have you been Hiyar Dayi.???

The Greek Language was on the curriculum of Turkish Secondary Schools till 1959 . Unfortunately the zealots had it removed from Secondary Schools.

Was the Turkish language in the curriculum of the GC schools Deniz or did the zealots not allow it in the first place?

How short sighted could one be. In the end it was our loss. We might have had less misunderstandings between us had it remained.

If they didn't want us to misunderstand them why didn't they learn Turkish so that they can explain it to us in our own language Deniz?

I undestand what you are saying eric_dayi, but that is something that they have to deal with. It shows their animosity/xenophobia, you name it. Personally the Greek language has its merits apart from being able to communicate with our Cypriot friends. I would have had no problem with learning Greek at school. Lots of our schoolmates were also disappointed at this. In spite of what is said , there is not a small number of GCs who in fact are learning Turkish now. Do you think its too late?

Regards
Deniz

[Get Real!]

The ultimate humiliation would be living in a GC state as a minority and gifting your country in whole to GCs.

Is this clown for real?

[paliometoxo]

“Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country”

- Words from the inaugural address of President John F. Kennedy, delivered in 1961.


What can Turkish Cypriots do for their country Cyprus?

they can go back home where they came from and leave us alone insteading causing problems for our island

[Get Real!]

The ultimate humiliation would be living in a GC state as a minority and gifting your country in whole to GCs.

Perhaps we have misunderstood VP all along... perhaps he is an indigenous Cypriot with 10,000 years of history on the island while all we've had to offer is death and destruction for the last 400 years to him and his community!

Everyone please apologize to VilloPoullos the indigenous Cypriot!