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TALAT REACTS TO PAPADOPOULOS SPEECH AT UN

Postby halil » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:28 pm

President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that the Greek Cypriot Administration was trying to portray the Cyprus Problem as one between the so-called Cyprus Republic and Turkey and not the two peoples on the island.



Evaluating the Greek Cypriot leader Tassos Papadopoulos’s speech at the UN General Assembly, President Talat said that the speech was quite provocative.

Stating that a solution reached with the withdrawal of the Turkish Peace Forces from the island would pave the way for the Greek Cypriot Side to assert its sovereignty over the whole island, the President said that this would result in the assimilation of the Turkish Cypriot people into minority within a Greek Cypriot State.


Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot Side’s views will only serve to heighten tensions on the island, Talat said that the Greek Cypriot leader’s speech also disregarded all past and present work carried out on Cyprus Problem by the UN.


"We want a union in the island, however, we will never give up our rights," Talat affirmed, adding that that Turkish Cypriot Side still remained committed to the goal of solving the Cyprus Problem and that they are doing best to achieve that goal.

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Postby humanist » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:57 pm

This is yet another indication that Talat and his government have a hidden agenda. His coments around the issue of minority indicates a complex of a sort. By nature of the population and demographics of Cyprus those Cypriots of a Turkish linguistic background are a minority. refusal to accept that simple fact will not bring Cyprus to a solution.

Minority Mr Talat does not mean inequality. Perhaps you needs to stop being in denial, accept that your community is a minority group but you have every right to equal rights and opportunties. May I also remind you that you are already a minority among the Turks anyway. At least ina unified Cyprus you may actually and stand a chance of being an equal Cypriot if you and Papadopoulos are willing to fight towards ONE CYPRIOT people.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:01 pm

President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that the Greek Cypriot Administration was trying to portray the Cyprus Problem as one between the so-called Cyprus Republic and Turkey and not the two peoples on the island.


well halil, the article is correct. there are more turks in the occupied and i am afraid you have to either take your complains up with turkey or start looking into some realities at how you are being played.

and by the why i like the way bayarak quotes talat as the president and Paps as the greek leader. and all this as Paps was addressing the UN as the only president of the RoC. it brought a chuckle to my face in an otherwise horrible day...thanks

go bayarak...what a great paper for the masses...
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:11 pm

We want a union in the island, however, we will never give up our rights


And what are those "rights" he is talking about?

The "right" to perform ethnic cleansing or the "right" to steal the land of others?

The rights of the TC minority in Cyprus are well defined in the 1960 agreements, and they can have the 100% of them as long as they allow us to have the 100% of ours. Nobody asked them to give up any of their rights.

On the contrary, the Turks and TCs, by illegally occupying 1/3rd of our country they are trying with brute force and blackmail to force us to give up our rights and gain on our loss.
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Postby zan » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:13 pm

The rights taken away by not only the words of Tpap but his actions. The Akritas plan.


A. External tactics (international).

During the recent stages of our national struggle the Cyprus problem has been presented to diplomatic circles as a demand for the exercise of the right of self-determination by the people of Cyprus. In securing the right of self-determination obstacles have been created by the well-known conditions, the existence of a Turkish minority, by the inter-communal conflict and the attempts to show that co-existence of both communities under one government was impossible. Finally, for many international circles the problem was solved by the London and Zurich Agreements, a solution which was presented as the result of negotiations and agreement between the two sides.

a) Consequently, our first target has been to cultivate internationally the impression that the Cyprus problem has not really been solved an the solution requires revision.

b) Our first objective was our endeavour to be vindicated as the Greek majority and to create the impression that:

(i) The solution given is neither satisfactory not fair;

(ii) The agreement reached was not the result of a free and voluntary acceptance of a compromise of the conflicting views;

(iii) That the revision of the agreements constitutes a compelling necessity for survival, and not an effort of the Greeks to repudiate their signature;

(iv) That the co-existence of the two communities is possible, and

(v) That the strong element on which foreign states ought to rely is the Greek majority and not the Turkish Cypriots.

c) All the above has required very difficult effort, and has been achieved to a satisfactory degree. Most of the foreign representatives have been convinced that the solution given was neither fair nor satisfactory, that it was signed under pressure and without real negotiations and that it was imposed under various threats. It is significant argument that the solution achieved has not been ratified by the people, because our leadership, acting wisely, avoided calling the people to ratify it by a plebiscite, which the people, in the 1959 spirit, would have done if called upon.

Generally, it has been established that the administration of Cyprus up to now has been carried out by the Greeks and that the Turks have confined themselves to a negative role.

d) Second objective. The first stage having been completed, we mus programme the second stage of our activities and objectives on the international level. These objectives in general can be outlined as follows:

(i) The Greek efforts are directed towards removing unreasonable and unfair provisions of administration and not to oppress the Turkish Cypriots;

(ii) The removal of these oppressive provisions must take place now because tomorrow it will be too late;

(iii) The removal of these provisions, despite the fact that this is reasonable and necessary, because of the unreasonable attitude of the Turks is not possible bv agreement, and therefore unilateral action is justified;

(iv) The issue of revision is an internal affair of the Cypriots and does not give the right of military or other intervention;

(v) The proposed amendments are reasonable, just, and safeguard the reasonable rights of the minority.

e) Today it has been generally demonstrated that the international climate is against every type of oppression and, more specifically, against the oppression of minorities. The Turks have already succeeded in persuading international opinion that union of Cyprus with Greece amounts to an attempt to enslave them. Further, it is estimated that we have better chances of succeeding in our efforts to influence international public opinion in our favour if we present our demand, as we did during the struggle, as a demand to exercise the right of self-determination, rather than as a demand for union with Greece (Enosis). In order, however, to secure the exercise of complete and free self-determination, we must get free of all those provisions of the constitution and of the agreements (Treaty of Guarantee, Treaty of Alliance) which prevent the free and unfettered expression and implementation of the wishes of our people and which create dangers of external intervention. It is for this reason that the first target of attack has been the Treaty of Guarantee, which was the first that was stated to be no longer recognised by the Greek Cypriots.



This always brings out the propagandists Deniz......
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Postby boomerang » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:25 pm

you are a lost cause zan...cme on admit it, you talked so much aboutit you couldn't help yourself.

where were you in 74 when we were fighting yours and ours tormentors for against enosis...oh yeah thats right...i nearly forgot...you were backdooring the people that objected to enosis...

so in short instead of fighting your tormentors, from your side and ours to defend our country, you decided to backdoor the same people that were your friends, same people that were against enosis, your lifelong fear...well done...

an oppurtunity missed on behalf of the tcs...
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Postby Piratis » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:27 pm

the murderous Turkish barbarians have killed 10s of thousands of Cypriots, performed ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands, and oppressed us Cypriots since the day they first invaded our island, and then to excuse their actions they give a ... document :lol:
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Postby zan » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:27 pm

boomerang wrote:you are a lost cause zan...cme on admit it, you talked so much aboutit you couldn't help yourself.

where were you in 74 when we were fighting yours and ours tormentors for against enosis...oh yeah thats right...i nearly forgot...you were backdooring the people that objected to enosis...

so in short instead of fighting your tormentors, from your side and ours to defend our country, you decided to backdoor the same people that were your friends, same people that were against enosis, your lifelong fear...well done...

an oppurtunity missed on behalf of the tcs...



Since when was Tpap against ENOSIS......
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Postby boomerang » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:32 pm

whats that got to do with my post?

and

Paps can think of anything he wants...thats his prorogetive...never underestimate the resilience of the Cypriots...I think we have proven that...time you prove yourselves i say...
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:41 pm

Piratis wrote:
We want a union in the island, however, we will never give up our rights


And what are those "rights" he is talking about?

The "right" to perform ethnic cleansing or the "right" to steal the land of others?

The rights of the TC minority in Cyprus are well defined in the 1960 agreements, and they can have the 100% of them as long as they allow us to have the 100% of ours. Nobody asked them to give up any of their rights.

On the contrary, the Turks and TCs, by illegally occupying 1/3rd of our country they are trying with brute force and blackmail to force us to give up our rights and gain on our loss.



Hallo Piratis my friend. True to form as usual. Always hiding around the corner waiting for your opportunity. At least you are consistent.
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