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[halil]

VP, VP, VP

Your newly elected President clearly stated that there are two state two religions in Cyprus. Has he taken the Cypro back to the dark ages? YES. That was a wrong coment my friend for someone who wants to move towards a solution on the Cypro.

Firtstly ..... his coments indicate Turkish agenda
Secondly ... goes against the agreed BBF solution
Thirdly ...... contradicts to some extend the BBF plan proposed within the AP
Fourthly..... TC community is no better off today than they were back in the days nearing 74
Lastly ....... @ the time they had right to intervene NOW they don't

Humanist,
Fourthly..... TC community is no better off today than they were back in the days nearing 74.

İ am not agree with your above comment. (bold)

We are much better than before 1974.

[humanist]

Thank you halil, I note your coment. You are also more than entitled to disagree with me.

[humanist]

The American dollar can buy lots of things Zan, Cyprus has nothing to offer to the Americans therefore the many years of ill action. I bet my bottom dollar that as soon as the first barrel of oil comes out of that sea, the Americans will take action to rid of turkey from Cyprus. Only time will tell.

Am exited about that prospect yes I am. Am angree at their use and disregard of peoples yes I am. Am disappointnted yes I am.

And if you stop your sarcasm for a minute may be you will see that I have included all of Cypriots not the 800,000 who have a Greek speaking background but also the 80,000 who have a Turkish speaking background.

[zan]

The American dollar can buy lots of things Zan, Cyprus has nothing to offer to the Americans therefore the many years of ill action. I bet my bottom dollar that as soon as the first barrel of oil comes out of that sea, the Americans will take action to rid of turkey from Cyprus. Only time will tell.

Am exited about that prospect yes I am. Am angree at their use and disregard of peoples yes I am. Am disappointnted yes I am.

And if you stop your sarcasm for a minute may be you will see that I have included all of Cypriots not the 800,000 who have a Greek speaking background but also the 80,000 who have a Turkish speaking background.

And so has the UN......They gave you the vote on points of law and then looked at the humanitarian rights of the wrongs TCs and drew up the Annan Plan. Points of law right, humanitarian rights wrong. Seems fair to me.......

[humanist]

Zan I am not sure I understand what you mean. You are entitled to have your views on this matter also. As far as I am concerned I fail to comprehend how someone can have their country divided exclude their compatriots and most of all deny their own existence on the rest of their country.

I haver tried to understand that point but fail to comprehend.

I take your point thatyou want partition I acceot that is where you are in your path, I do not have to agree with it and certainly I am getting a bit over the Cypro. I just hope that I can come accross Cypriots who consider each other as part of the same human race and who would like to explore a unified solution fro my country.

So if you don't mind please leave me alone, because I undersatnd both your position and views on this matter and I am not willing to compromise my position.

[zan]

Zan I am not sure I understand what you mean. You are entitled to have your views on this matter also. As far as I am concerned I fail to comprehend how someone can have their country divided exclude their compatriots and most of all deny their own existence on the rest of their country.

I haver tried to understand that point but fail to comprehend.

I take your point thatyou want partition I acceot that is where you are in your path, I do not have to agree with it and certainly I am getting a bit over the Cypro. I just hope that I can come accross Cypriots who consider each other as part of the same human race and who would like to explore a unified solution fro my country.

So if you don't mind please leave me alone, because I undersatnd both your position and views on this matter and I am not willing to compromise my position.

I have no problem with your position Humanist but the way you choose to justify it. You pick and choose all the best chocolates out of the box and declare that what is left is evil and corrupt. Try going for the hard centres...They last longer and surprise you every time as to why you feared them so much in the first place.

[halil]

The American dollar can buy lots of things Zan, Cyprus has nothing to offer to the Americans therefore the many years of ill action. I bet my bottom dollar that as soon as the first barrel of oil comes out of that sea, the Americans will take action to rid of turkey from Cyprus. Only time will tell.

Am exited about that prospect yes I am. Am angree at their use and disregard of peoples yes I am. Am disappointnted yes I am.

And if you stop your sarcasm for a minute may be you will see that I have included all of Cypriots not the 800,000 who have a Greek speaking background but also the 80,000 who have a Turkish speaking background.

Humanist,
When did u left the Cyprus ?
Before 74 our population was 120 000 (HUNDRED twenty thousand).
according to your numbers we are reduced . What happened to rest of it ?
İt looks we don't make any Child .
As far as i know almost every family makes 2 kids.
What's happening to our childrens ?

[zan]

The American dollar can buy lots of things Zan, Cyprus has nothing to offer to the Americans therefore the many years of ill action. I bet my bottom dollar that as soon as the first barrel of oil comes out of that sea, the Americans will take action to rid of turkey from Cyprus. Only time will tell.

Am exited about that prospect yes I am. Am angree at their use and disregard of peoples yes I am. Am disappointnted yes I am.

And if you stop your sarcasm for a minute may be you will see that I have included all of Cypriots not the 800,000 who have a Greek speaking background but also the 80,000 who have a Turkish speaking background.

Humanist,
When did u left the Cyprus ?
Before 74 our population was 120 000 (HUNDRED twenty thousand).
according to your numbers we are reduced . What happened to rest of it ?
?t looks we don't make any Child .
As far as i know almost every family makes 2 kids.
What's happening to our childrens ?

They swallow everything that their corrupt government tells them and then think we are stupid enough to believe it as well despite the fact we are the ones they are talking about. Perhaps if we tell them that we eat the children we produce that will fit into their picture of us.

[humanist]

Zan, I don;t think you can acuse me of picking the chocolate without you first admiting to yourself that you too do that.

Here it goes again, I believe that Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, I believe that all Cypriots have the right to equal rights and opportunities. I bvelieve Cypriots have the right to choose where they live and most certainly believe that Cypriots have rights to their properties and contry.

If that is picking the chocolate then I am guilty of your accusation.



Halil

I left Cyprus after 74, the reason we left Cyprus is that my father and mother did not want us to serve in the army because the Turks killed my mother's brother in the 74 invasion, and they did not want us to suffer the same fate.

As far as your children are concerned I am not sure what happens. It is no skin of my nose mate whetehr your 80.000 or 120,000 or whetehr infact the settlers ounumber you 2 to 1. What I think is ashame is that a group of people of my country are loosing their identity (in lack of a better word) as such a part of the Cypriot culture is also lost.

I thank God that I have developed this sense of proudness for my country and its history to accept and embrace difference to accept and respect my fellow Cypriots and not to hate or discriminate against them based on their colour language or creed.

When you understand what I am saying above with the most humbling way then you will understand where I am coming from.

[zan]

Zan, I don;t think you can acuse me of picking the chocolate without you first admiting to yourself that you too do that.

Here it goes again, I believe that Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots, I believe that all Cypriots have the right to equal rights and opportunities. I bvelieve Cypriots have the right to choose where they live and most certainly believe that Cypriots have rights to their properties and contry.

If that is picking the chocolate then I am guilty of your accusation.



Halil

I left Cyprus after 74, the reason we left Cyprus is that my father and mother did not want us to serve in the army because the Turks killed my mother's brother in the 74 invasion, and they did not want us to suffer the same fate.

As far as your children are concerned I am not sure what happens. It is no skin of my nose mate whetehr your 80.000 or 120,000 or whetehr infact the settlers ounumber you 2 to 1. What I think is ashame is that a group of people of my country are loosing their identity (in lack of a better word) as such a part of the Cypriot culture is also lost.

I thank God that I have developed this sense of proudness for my country and its history to accept and embrace difference to accept and respect my fellow Cypriots and not to hate or discriminate against them based on their colour language or creed.

When you understand what I am saying above with the most humbling way then you will understand where I am coming from.

Humanist

You are just describing the box of chocolates and not the manner in which you are eating them.