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[zan]

VP, VP, VP

Your newly elected President clearly stated that there are two state two religions in Cyprus. Has he taken the Cypro back to the dark ages? YES. That was a wrong coment my friend for someone who wants to move towards a solution on the Cypro.

Firtstly ..... his coments indicate Turkish agenda
Secondly ... goes against the agreed BBF solution
Thirdly ...... contradicts to some extend the BBF plan proposed within the AP
Fourthly..... TC community is no better off today than they were back in the days nearing 74
Lastly ....... @ the time they had right to intervene NOW they don't

The resounding NO sent us back a zillion years humanist, no one takes you guys seriously now when claim you want a solution.

Perhaps he should have said he did not exist and promptly disappeared...It would have suited those that cannot see what is in front of their eyes.

[Kifeas]

You know full well Turkey is neither a member nor do they recognize such a body...so stop pluging this futile arguement.

He he he!

Why doesn't Turkey recognise the ICJ, VP? Is it because it doesn't suit Turkey to do so, in order to act like a typical vagabond anarchist that takes the law in his own hands? And why is Turkey still a member of the UN, if it doesn't accept the jurisdiction of the ICJ? Why doesn't Turkey withdraw from the UN, if it doesn't recognise its Charter which calls for all UN member states to accept and abide by the rulings of the ICJ (articles 92, 93 & 94 of the UN charter?)

[utu]

Kifeas,

There are a lot of nations in the UN who act the way you describe. The UN has a history of ignoring its own charter for political gain, so I really do not place much credibility in it.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas,

There are a lot of nations in the UN who act the way you describe. The UN has a history of ignoring its own charter for political gain, so I really do not place much credibility in it.

The UN ignoring its own Charter? Can you give us such an example, because all I know is only about member states ignoring the UN Charter, like Turkey for example!

[Viewpoint]

You know full well Turkey is neither a member nor do they recognize such a body...so stop pluging this futile arguement.

He he he!

Why doesn't Turkey recognise the ICJ, VP? Is it because it doesn't suit Turkey to do so, in order to act like a typical vagabond anarchist that takes the law in his own hands? And why is Turkey still a member of the UN, if it doesn't accept the jurisdiction of the ICJ? Why doesn't Turkey withdraw from the UN, if it doesn't recognise its Charter which calls for all UN member states to accept and abide by the rulings of the ICJ (articles 92, 93 & 94 of the UN charter?)

Dont hear the UN calling for anything but the 8th July Agreements, no embargoes against Turkey no fines there must be something you are not putting into the equation, maybe the UN feels you to are wrong and need to make allowences for a solution.

[utu]

Kifeas,

Ian Smith, in his book BITTER HARVEST, explained how the UN was ignoring aspects of its charter in regards to Rhodesia. Its worth a read.

[humanist]

VP the astounding NO vote ws not a NO to unification it was NO to unification under the AP proposal.

Dont hear the UN calling for anything but the 8th July Agreements, no embargoes against Turkey no fines there must be something you are not putting into the equation, maybe the UN feels you to are wrong and need to make allowences for a solution.

NO we don't hear the UN applying these measures because they really don't care about 880,000 Cypriots. No one said the UN is not corrupt.

[kyreniaman]

Dear Humanist as you so rightly pointed out 'at the time they had a right to intervene' so whats going to stop further internal inhuman treatment once there is no protector for the minority population of Cyprus? Even now many land deals are being done via bribes to ministers in the south and pre 1974 turkish lands in the south are being exchanged to this day !!! You should concentrate more on foreign bodies who are buying up vast amounts of land in the north ie Israelies who re investing heavily and sitting on the lands for some reason known to them only !!!! The Turkish Cypriots are becoming more of a minority every day. Seems that that one takes the northern Cypriots into consideration at all !!! Is it because they are a minority? Where are the human rights? Or do rights only apply to certain races?

[zan]

VP the astounding NO vote ws not a NO to unification it was NO to unification under the AP proposal.

Dont hear the UN calling for anything but the 8th July Agreements, no embargoes against Turkey no fines there must be something you are not putting into the equation, maybe the UN feels you to are wrong and need to make allowences for a solution.

NO we don't hear the UN applying these measures because they really don't care about 880,000 Cypriots. No one said the UN is not corrupt.

But you can choose where they are corrupt and where they are not right

[humanist]

Kyrenianman, welcome to the forum.

I fyou are asking me for my personal opinion this is it. I personally do not have a problem with Cypriots who are a minority any minority and certainly not those who speak Turkish. I personally would like to see all Cypriots living together and sharing alll that Cyprus has to offer. Human rights arre there if you choose to accept them. Human rights apply to all. I have no problem for any Cypriot to reclaim their rightful land anywhere and participate in all aspects of Cypriot rights. At the moment the occupied area of Cyprus is causing violation of human rights and thus has an embargo on it. To this end I agree and support the embargo. having said that I believe that those Cypriots who did not own land in the occupied areas and are refugees themselves from the free areas of cyprus ought to receiceve assistance and support from the legitimate govnrment of Cyprus to return to their properties.

My grandmother lost her home and son in 1974 and became a refugee in her homeland so I do not agree with the so called trnc or what it stands for. I appreciate there was violence against Cypriots who speak Turkish back in 1974 and there were concerns about their safety, howebver war and occupation of my country is not a way that I see to solve these issues.