zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
DT. wrote:zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
Wasn't sure that your friends get vetted as well when you join this forum but anyway.
1960 agreement is a great way to start. REquires a few clauses to protect the state from getting paralysed again and a few clauses to get the TC's to feel a little safer so that when it comes to issues that directly impact the TC's a special vote is required. Other than that stuff a little EU acquis in there and Bob's your uncle.
I'd vote yes.
zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
Wasn't sure that your friends get vetted as well when you join this forum but anyway.
1960 agreement is a great way to start. REquires a few clauses to protect the state from getting paralysed again and a few clauses to get the TC's to feel a little safer so that when it comes to issues that directly impact the TC's a special vote is required. Other than that stuff a little EU acquis in there and Bob's your uncle.
I'd vote yes.
I have no friends
Are you best friends with Tpaps son????
The only thing that paralysed the constitution was the implementation of the Akritas Plan DT. Whatever the constitution was that plan would have scuppered it. That was the whole point. As for safe guards for the TCs..We have it in our veto. That intact will suffice thank you.
DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
Wasn't sure that your friends get vetted as well when you join this forum but anyway.
1960 agreement is a great way to start. REquires a few clauses to protect the state from getting paralysed again and a few clauses to get the TC's to feel a little safer so that when it comes to issues that directly impact the TC's a special vote is required. Other than that stuff a little EU acquis in there and Bob's your uncle.
I'd vote yes.
I have no friends
Are you best friends with Tpaps son????
The only thing that paralysed the constitution was the implementation of the Akritas Plan DT. Whatever the constitution was that plan would have scuppered it. That was the whole point. As for safe guards for the TCs..We have it in our veto. That intact will suffice thank you.
something much smarter can be come up with so that no matter what happens the state continues to function (tax collecting, police, cicil service etc) but no laws are passed that will impact the TC's without a special vote from them.
The akritas plan whether you like it or not never got executed so the validity in what you are saying doesn't stand right now. The invasion on the other hand was pre-planned, attempted 3 times and carried out in full force with a 2nd invasion in direct breach of the 60's constitution. I say lets leave out the damage caused in the past from this discussion so that we may get somewhere.
1960+specific clauses to safeguard decisions made for tc's+safeguards for state+EU acquis and there you are.
zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
Wasn't sure that your friends get vetted as well when you join this forum but anyway.
1960 agreement is a great way to start. REquires a few clauses to protect the state from getting paralysed again and a few clauses to get the TC's to feel a little safer so that when it comes to issues that directly impact the TC's a special vote is required. Other than that stuff a little EU acquis in there and Bob's your uncle.
I'd vote yes.
I have no friends
Are you best friends with Tpaps son????
The only thing that paralysed the constitution was the implementation of the Akritas Plan DT. Whatever the constitution was that plan would have scuppered it. That was the whole point. As for safe guards for the TCs..We have it in our veto. That intact will suffice thank you.
something much smarter can be come up with so that no matter what happens the state continues to function (tax collecting, police, cicil service etc) but no laws are passed that will impact the TC's without a special vote from them.
The akritas plan whether you like it or not never got executed so the validity in what you are saying doesn't stand right now. The invasion on the other hand was pre-planned, attempted 3 times and carried out in full force with a 2nd invasion in direct breach of the 60's constitution. I say lets leave out the damage caused in the past from this discussion so that we may get somewhere.
1960+specific clauses to safeguard decisions made for tc's+safeguards for state+EU acquis and there you are.
I beg to differ on the results and the implementation of the Akritas because you see, the author is in the presidential "palace" so I think it went ,mostly, according to plan. The decisions on who is recognised government of the island was dependant on it. A little thing called Turkey and the resolve of the TCs were the only things that saw that it was not successful to the last, at least for part of the island any way.
There is also the fact that I do not trust the "RoC" to decide who is and isn't a Cypriot.....The TCs will have to decide.
DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
Wasn't sure that your friends get vetted as well when you join this forum but anyway.
1960 agreement is a great way to start. REquires a few clauses to protect the state from getting paralysed again and a few clauses to get the TC's to feel a little safer so that when it comes to issues that directly impact the TC's a special vote is required. Other than that stuff a little EU acquis in there and Bob's your uncle.
I'd vote yes.
I have no friends
Are you best friends with Tpaps son????
The only thing that paralysed the constitution was the implementation of the Akritas Plan DT. Whatever the constitution was that plan would have scuppered it. That was the whole point. As for safe guards for the TCs..We have it in our veto. That intact will suffice thank you.
something much smarter can be come up with so that no matter what happens the state continues to function (tax collecting, police, cicil service etc) but no laws are passed that will impact the TC's without a special vote from them.
The akritas plan whether you like it or not never got executed so the validity in what you are saying doesn't stand right now. The invasion on the other hand was pre-planned, attempted 3 times and carried out in full force with a 2nd invasion in direct breach of the 60's constitution. I say lets leave out the damage caused in the past from this discussion so that we may get somewhere.
1960+specific clauses to safeguard decisions made for tc's+safeguards for state+EU acquis and there you are.
I beg to differ on the results and the implementation of the Akritas because you see, the author is in the presidential "palace" so I think it went ,mostly, according to plan. The decisions on who is recognised government of the island was dependant on it. A little thing called Turkey and the resolve of the TCs were the only things that saw that it was not successful to the last, at least for part of the island any way.
There is also the fact that I do not trust the "RoC" to decide who is and isn't a Cypriot.....The TCs will have to decide.
And i suspect the hordes of settlers you brought over in your medieval attempt to alter the demographics is your way of making cypriots.
Try asking your compatriots over here how much they like their settler brothers and whether they wanna keep them first and then you can a convo with us.
zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:DT. wrote:zan wrote:What you mean the constitution that the "RoC" used in all it's arguments to get the decisions on legal matters and the one that it has no intention of honouring. Then you expect the two most closest friends of Tpaps son DT and GR to put it to the vote...Tpapa crying might not work this time because he will have too show the world that he really does want to go back to the Zurich agreement but show his people that he rreally does not....Tricky
Wasn't sure that your friends get vetted as well when you join this forum but anyway.
1960 agreement is a great way to start. REquires a few clauses to protect the state from getting paralysed again and a few clauses to get the TC's to feel a little safer so that when it comes to issues that directly impact the TC's a special vote is required. Other than that stuff a little EU acquis in there and Bob's your uncle.
I'd vote yes.
I have no friends
Are you best friends with Tpaps son????
The only thing that paralysed the constitution was the implementation of the Akritas Plan DT. Whatever the constitution was that plan would have scuppered it. That was the whole point. As for safe guards for the TCs..We have it in our veto. That intact will suffice thank you.
something much smarter can be come up with so that no matter what happens the state continues to function (tax collecting, police, cicil service etc) but no laws are passed that will impact the TC's without a special vote from them.
The akritas plan whether you like it or not never got executed so the validity in what you are saying doesn't stand right now. The invasion on the other hand was pre-planned, attempted 3 times and carried out in full force with a 2nd invasion in direct breach of the 60's constitution. I say lets leave out the damage caused in the past from this discussion so that we may get somewhere.
1960+specific clauses to safeguard decisions made for tc's+safeguards for state+EU acquis and there you are.
I beg to differ on the results and the implementation of the Akritas because you see, the author is in the presidential "palace" so I think it went ,mostly, according to plan. The decisions on who is recognised government of the island was dependant on it. A little thing called Turkey and the resolve of the TCs were the only things that saw that it was not successful to the last, at least for part of the island any way.
There is also the fact that I do not trust the "RoC" to decide who is and isn't a Cypriot.....The TCs will have to decide.
And i suspect the hordes of settlers you brought over in your medieval attempt to alter the demographics is your way of making cypriots.
Try asking your compatriots over here how much they like their settler brothers and whether they wanna keep them first and then you can a convo with us.
Perhaps we could use the Hitlerite method measuring features to determine who is and who isn't....On both sides of the border Anyone with a big hooter must be Greek I say........I know one person that fits the bill..........It has been recorded in history with comparisons to the Roman nose so it should not be too hard to do.
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