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[BirKibrisli]

Talking about redeveloping Varosia is all fine,but where will the wildlife that have found a safe heaven there go????Think of all those poor Cypriot turtles, snakes,rats and other fauna there and lets turn the whole place into a World Heritage National Park,dedicated to the stupidity of all Cypriots for allowing foreign interests to divide and rule them throughout recent and distant history of our beautiful homeland...

That's a great idea . . . but what about the refugees made homeless.

Yeah...People always get in the way of a good idea,don't they?

Perhaps Varosia can be turned into a "Peace town"...
Only people who want to live together as Cypriots should be allowed to move in. It can be turned into a showcase of what the Whole Cyprus can be like,if we are prepared to put our ethnicity and stupidity behind us...

[T_C]

I think thats a really good idea BK!

[humanist]

Birk

Talking about redeveloping Varosia is all fine,but where will the wildlife that have found a safe heaven there go????Think of all those poor Cypriot turtles, snakes,rats and other fauna there and lets turn the whole place into a World Heritage National Park,dedicated to the stupidity of all Cypriots for allowing foreign interests to divide and rule them throughout recent and distant history of our beautiful homeland...

I propose that the current buffer zone is declared as national peace park and we can have the fauna safely transfered there.


I also support Birk's recomendation above

[utu]

A 'natural memorial' to partition? There are similar views for the DMZ between North and South Korea...

[Viewpoint]

Why wont the Turkish Cypriots give back Varosha

Because they are mean and Turkey wont let them. Rumor has it the trnc is run by barbaric Turkey.

Now you are being silly, would the GCs be willing to live in the TRNC and abide by our laws?

there is NO trnc hence no trnc laws. Its like asking someone to live in disneyland under disneyland management with mickey mouse dollar bills as a currency. WHat happens when your shareholders (turkey) decide to sell the place to new management? You can't live in such a temporary state no matter how long temporary seems right now.

I wonder how you even manage to hang any pictures on the walls...

That bad huh,in your dreams sucker...tell that to the next TRNC policeman who stops you for speeding or any other law breaking incidents.

I consider him to have the same powers as Group 4 Security has over a piece of property that a few squatters have gathered. WHat did you expect to hear?

Then tell them that when they throw you in prison, Im sure they will listen and let you go

[Viewpoint]

George,

If we declared tomorrow that half of the contracts would be awarded to Turkish Cypriot and mainland Turkish construction firms, the town would be given back the same day. Politics is noble, but business is lucrative.

Do you mean we as in GCs? bloody cheek you do not have control over it so we decide and can have 100% of the contracts if we ever decide to open it up...why give it back theres no incentive.

VP, when partition occurs and you take that tail of Cyprus for your own 10% Turkish state, will you also accept the position of Muhtar for Galinoporni (Kaleburnu) village in the Karpas peninsula?

The Karpaz region is beautiful we do not have any problems accepting that virgin area....but what will you do if the % is not as you think it is and GCs boost our 18% to 25% or even 29% or discoveries are made that TC land was stolen from TCs and should be returned. I believe you will be sick to your stomache and want to die rather than let TCs have anything on this island. You come accross as someone who is ooking for revenge the first opportunity you get so TCs woudl be wise to take note that Kifeas represents the majority of GCs.

VP, you Kemaloglu Turks are the champions of the most hilarious, kitsch and pervasive nationalism that currently exists on the globe, and no Cypriot can possibly tolerate such a depressive paranoia! No Cypriot (with the exception of Bananiot perhaps) will ever accept to live under the shadow of Kemal’s head in every corner of the block, and to constantly read meaningless slogans such as “Bir Türk Dünya`ya Bedeldir” and "Ne Mutlu Türküm Diyene," painted with large letters on every second hill or mountain of his country! Therefore, do not hope that you will get any percentage boosting from GCs! To the contrary, our estimation is the as many as 50% of the TC community feel like real Cypriots more than Turks, and therefore you are doomed to stay with only 9% for your partitioned state ...if you are lucky!

You claiming they will not return does not mean they will give up the rights to their property so that figure is bound to increase to around the figure always put forward at high level negotiations, why cant you stomahe this, at worst this figure will be 25% but whats the point of arguing % when we have agreed that you to believe that partition is the only real option we have to find a solution. Well done you to have arrived at the same destination where many others will follow in time.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint wrote

...why give it back theres no incentive.

You give it back bacause you don't need it and as a humanitarian gesture to the thousands of people who have been barred from their homes and their jobs.

Would that be the same kind of giving back that the GCs did back in 1963 when thousands of TCs lived in tents?

[humanist]

VP just as many GC's and many more lived in tents in and after 1974. Not a good argument, that one.

[Viewpoint]

VP just as many GC's and many more lived in tents in and after 1974. Not a good argument, that one.

So are you suggesting we shoud be the bigger man and forgive those sins performed against us...not act like our enemies who showed us no mercy and discrminated against us only 44 years? Whats to stop them from doing this if I expose myself to such treatment without any protection??

[humanist]

utu

A 'natural memorial' to partition? There are similar views for the DMZ between North and South Korea...

There is not going to be a partition. So it will be a natural memorial to the Peoples Republic of Cyprus.

and if am not mistaken most TC's are secretely yearning unification at best on BBF model. Why not they can have access to EU immediately. As Turkey is moving further from EU membership the best option for TC community is BBF solution.

However, Turkey will not allow the TC's to gain EU membership before it does.