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Why wont the Turkish Cypriots give back Varosha

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Postby Nikitas » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:44 pm

Famagusta reconstruction is one and sure way out of any future economic slump precisely because it is NOT a tourist development.

The very word development is a contradiction in terms, considering it usually is nothing more than the degradation of land and habitats simply so some weasel can sell unplanned and problematic dwellings to foreigners.

Famagusta is a city, which has a plan, and its own financing, ie the owners of properties who will take secured loans to rebuild their houses inorder to inhabit them. It is not a tourist "development". The reconstruction is the biggest civil engineering project in the history of Cyprus and one of the biggest in the world. If our politicians had brains they would realise the boost the reconstructin can give to the economy of the whole island, north and south. Perhaps if we have a huge slump in the "tourist industry" (another oxymoron which aims to turn everyone of us into a waiter or chamber maid), we might start getting out of the impasse by starting with the rebuilding of Famagusta.

There is simply not enough manpower in the south to undertake the rebuilding. Turkish Cypriot architects and builders will have to be employed in the reconstruction. The accomodation alone will give you a clue- count on 20 000 apartments at 100 sq.meters each at 2000 Euros per sq.meter. That accounts for the dwellings, now add the infrastructure like roads, electricity and phone lines, drains etc and you get an idea of ths size of this project. And then there are the peripherals like furniture and fixtures etc. I deliberately left the tourist installations out because they are not relevant to the economics at this point.

There are some weird remarks in this forum like "we control it" etc. This approach is nonsense. The empty town will reduce the displaced persons by a third thereofre decrease pressure on the north re properties. It will not reduce the ground held by Turkish Cypriots by one single meter. It does not change the military situation in favor or against anyone. It provides employment for more than a quarter of the north's labor force. Not returning Famagusta to its legal owners is monumental stupidity.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:52 pm

A little infobite about reconstruction-

In the 70s when I first moved to Athens I was involved for a while in the shipping of cement to Beirut for the temporary repair of battle damaged buildings (from the civil war that was going on then). One of the shipments was 47 000 tons of cement. That was for the temporary repairs. Actual work started during the 90s and the contracts got much bigger. Now sit down and think about the size of the project and think that it does not involve the destruction of any valuable habitat in Cyprus. Compare it then with the proposed ruination of the Karpasia region and think again of how dumb you have to be not to see the difference.

Perhaps here we must heed Kikapu's urging and follow the money. In the reconstruction of Famagusta the money will go to Cypriots. In Karpasia the money will go where?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:03 pm

T_C wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
T_C wrote:قبرصيّة تركيّة


An inheritance (qbrsa) . :?: :?: :?: :?:



Not sure what you mean when you say inheritance Pyro but it spells "Cypriot Turkish" :D



What is written there is written in the Arabic style and not the Ottoman style. That reads 'Kibrisiya Turkiya'. Which uses Arabic grammar. It does not mean much in Ottoman Turkish.

As far as I know Kibris is written with the 'ince se'. You have produced it with the 'kalin sa' 'sad'.

I have experimented with Arabic alphabets, but my uncle who was a teacher corrected me. I learned to read Ottoman so I could read his old text books. Full marks for trying. If you also study the map of Cyprus produced by Halil on the forum (yesterday or the day before), you will see the 'se' used instead of the 'sad'. It does make a hell of a difference, believe me.
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Postby mehmet » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:08 pm

mehmet wrote:
Viewpoint wrote

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...why give it back theres no incentive.


You give it back bacause you don't need it and as a humanitarian gesture to the thousands of people who have been barred from their homes and their jobs.


Would that be the same kind of giving back that the GCs did back in 1963 when thousands of TCs lived in tents?


Have you picked yourself up from the floor at such a witty response?
Is that the standard of behaviour you aspire to? To do no better than was done to your community?
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