CopperLine wrote:Greeks have a right of self-determination. Turks have a right of self-determination. Belgians have a right of self-determination. Zimbabweans have a right of self-determination. Tamils have a right of self-determination. Inuits have a right of self-determination. Cypriots have a right of self-determination.
Do Greek Cypriots have a right of self-determination ?
Do Turkish Cypriots have a right of self-determination ?
These are separate questions and prior questions to that of how self-determination may be secured. (It is difficult to think of any self-determination movement in modern history that was not assisted to a greater or lesser degree by outside powers).
Grabage, Copperline! Garbage! You are a cynical insulter! If your "logic" was to be taken as an axiom, then there is no way peace will ever prevail anywhere in the world, more so not in Cyprus, and the cycle of bloodshed will never stop! Garbage! The right of self determination has a context in which it is applied, and is not a matter of who has more friends, or better more powerful ones! Otherwise we are not talking about a right, but about imposition of fait accomplices with the use of force, and as you know the wheel turns around and fait accomplices are reversed in the same way they are imposed, and new fait accomplices are imposed, thus a never ending cycle of violence and bloodshed! Perhaps you like this idea becasue it currently suits your interests! I am sure if didn't, you wouldn't have been talking in this cynical way!
Let me explain it to you, so that you at least and at last learn something! Yes, Cypriots as a whole do have an absolute right of self-determination, as it is envisioned in the universal declaration of human rights, simply because they constitute a people that legitimately and legally live in a separate and distinct geographical area that is called the island of Cyprus! They have a territory on the basis of which to exercise this right! Turkish Cypriots on their own, if taken separately as a portion of the people of Cyprus, and Greek Cypriots as well; cannot have (on the basis of their communal /ethnic background identity) an absolute right of separate self-determination, simply because none of them is the exclusive indigenous owner (or historical inhabitant) of any separate, homogeneous and distinct territory of Cyprus!
One may (legitimately) argue that Greek Cypriots, simply because they are the overwhelming majority of the people of Cyprus and because they have a much longer historical presence in it, in contrast to the TCs -who one may argue can also bee seen as a numerical minority living among them; can exercise a somewhat more extensive self-determination right (hence the enosis movement!) At least this has been the case in most other parts of the world!
However, at a time in which, for the sake of a solution, peace and respectful co-existence among all the people of Cyprus, the GCs are ready to forego (and have in fact foregone in princible) any (perfectly legitimate for most other places on earth) more exclusive, separate and more extensive self-determination right (due to the reasons I have explained above;) you must have the audacity of a thousand apes to come here and have the nerve to introduce or try to "built" a rubbish thesis towards a TC separate and absolute (because this is what you have meant) self-determination right, more so on the basis and in view of so many illegalities and human rights violations!
As for the use of the word schizophrenic, I used it in its figurative sense and not in its literal one! Yes, you are a schizophrenic, for you cannot reflect and relate with what you are reading as a perspective international law “jurisprudent,” hence your ridiculous claims!
