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[Jerry]

VP your crappy "Properties Commission" does not work. Your "Embassy" in London does not give the address unless you hound them, they send the wrong information and then you wait months for an invisible application form that is "enclosed". You are expected to make the application in Turkish (English would be a fair compromise), bloody minded I call that since 99% of applicants will be Greek speaking. If it takes months to kick-start the application how long would it take to process thousands of applicants. Its the biggest con going and the ECHR seem to be falling for it. My understanding is that if you don't like what the "Commisson" offer then you still have recourse to the ECHR, everyone should apply with a view to refusing the offer which will probably come long after they are dead any way!

[Kikapu]

Jerry,

At the present time, the rate of application approval by the "Property Commission" is about 20 cases per year.

To process minimum 50,000 applications, it will take 2,500 years.

In that time period, Cyprus will go through many changes, let alone the survival of the "TRNC", so you are right, the whole thing is a joke.

[Viewpoint]

VP your crappy "Properties Commission" does not work. Your "Embassy" in London does not give the address unless you hound them, they send the wrong information and then you wait months for an invisible application form that is "enclosed". You are expected to make the application in Turkish (English would be a fair compromise), bloody minded I call that since 99% of applicants will be Greek speaking. If it takes months to kick-start the application how long would it take to process thousands of applicants. Its the biggest con going and the ECHR seem to be falling for it. My understanding is that if you don't like what the "Commisson" offer then you still have recourse to the ECHR, everyone should apply with a view to refusing the offer which will probably come long after they are dead any way!

You are right everyone shoudl apply if just to expolse this scam if it is that and the return to the ECHR who will take stronger action against Turkey.

[Nikitas]

TC,

I have not been to norther Cyprus.But I have checked on web sites about the north and it was sad to see an effort made to avoid using the word Greek, sometimes with comic results. The case of Salamis is a joke, because the site praises Evagoras as the founder but calls the city itself Roman.

The case of Lapithos, ancient Lambousa, is funnier still, because it recounts the story of Lambousa and then says that two "persons" with obviously Greek names accidentally found the ancient site while working in their fields.

The best is the donkeys of Karpasia. An English reporter wrote how the official leaflet tells how "after the peace operation of 1974 many donkeys in Karpasia found themselves without owners". You got to admit that these incidents are funny and I assure you they are not urban legend. If I have the time I will get the links for you so you can check them out.

[Nikitas]

VP,

If you could guarantee that the conditions in the north will be as good as they are today for Turkish Cypriots in the south, then I would have no problem living under Turkish Cypriot administration. The operative word here has to be CYPRIOT. There is no chance that I would ever let a mainland Turk have any say over me. The same goes by the way for any mainland Greek if I lived in the south. One of the things the Annan plan could not guarantee is that there would never be a non Cypriot, of either ethnic group, in elected position in Cyprus.

If you want to make your plan palatable to the people in the south you ought to look into that, who can and cannot be elected or appointed to positions of power. There is a vast psychological difference between Cypriots being in authority and Greeks and Turks. If you cannot see that far then there is no point discussing it.

[paliometoxo]

i went to the north my friend at the boarder was aaying in greek to the turkish im gonna kill u all and i said to her be carefull they probably understand, then she said in english u speak greek and he said in greek nai katalaboume "we understand"

[Viewpoint]

VP,

If you could guarantee that the conditions in the north will be as good as they are today for Turkish Cypriots in the south, then I would have no problem living under Turkish Cypriot administration. The operative word here has to be CYPRIOT. There is no chance that I would ever let a mainland Turk have any say over me. The same goes by the way for any mainland Greek if I lived in the south. One of the things the Annan plan could not guarantee is that there would never be a non Cypriot, of either ethnic group, in elected position in Cyprus.

If you want to make your plan palatable to the people in the south you ought to look into that, who can and cannot be elected or appointed to positions of power. There is a vast psychological difference between Cypriots being in authority and Greeks and Turks. If you cannot see that far then there is no point discussing it.

Imo Gcs should force the TCs hand and come live in the north rent homes and abide by the law asking for citizenship and try setting up business in order to test the system. I know Gcs who come here to do buiness with TCs and even rent houses and there are GCs who rent a flat and stay the weekend in order to visit the casinos here. these people do not encounter any problems, we are very hospitable people and would not allow anything bad to happen to GCs you say the following against Turkey

There is no chance that I would ever let a mainland Turk have any say over me.

We feel the same way about GCs, the emotions and mistrust you feel aboout Turkey we feel against you, so now maybe you can understand how we feel.

[phoenix]

Imo Gcs should force the TCs hand and come live in the north rent homes and abide by the law asking for citizenship and try setting up business in order to test the system. I know Gcs who come here to do buiness with TCs and even rent houses and there are GCs who rent a flat and stay the weekend in order to visit the casinos here. these people do not encounter any problems, we are very hospitable people and would not allow anything bad to happen to GCs.

Come into the parlour said the spider to the fly . . . .

Viewpoint maybe the TCs are the lesser of the two evils compared to mainland Turks, but in continuing to deny the Cypriots their homes and then have the audacity to invite them back as your guests . . . then you are not just evil you are also truly deranged.

[Viewpoint]

Imo Gcs should force the TCs hand and come live in the north rent homes and abide by the law asking for citizenship and try setting up business in order to test the system. I know Gcs who come here to do buiness with TCs and even rent houses and there are GCs who rent a flat and stay the weekend in order to visit the casinos here. these people do not encounter any problems, we are very hospitable people and would not allow anything bad to happen to GCs.

Come into the parlour said the spider to the fly . . . .

Viewpoint maybe the TCs are the lesser of the two evils compared to mainland Turks, but in continuing to deny the Cypriots their homes and then have the audacity to invite them back as your guests . . . then you are not just evil you are also truly deranged.

What am I suggesting? have you understood anything about what Ive said? or are you so bloody minded that you read what you want into my posts.

[Kikapu]

Imo Gcs should force the TCs hand and come live in the north rent homes and abide by the law asking for citizenship and try setting up business in order to test the system. I know Gcs who come here to do buiness with TCs and even rent houses and there are GCs who rent a flat and stay the weekend in order to visit the casinos here. these people do not encounter any problems, we are very hospitable people and would not allow anything bad to happen to GCs.

Come into the parlour said the spider to the fly . . . .

Viewpoint maybe the TCs are the lesser of the two evils compared to mainland Turks, but in continuing to deny the Cypriots their homes and then
have the audacity to invite them back as your guests . . . then you are not just evil you are also truly deranged.

I'm sorry Phoenix, but you have read VP's post all wrong.

VP never said that the GC's can come to the North, their homeland as guests....no no no...VP said that they can come and RENT places to stay .