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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:17 pm

Viewpoint wrote:T_C can you see the pattern developing here Bananiot points out an unprovoked attack on innocent TC family and the GCs try to explain it away, yet if this occured in the north we would be cruxcified..normal people would have condemned this bastard as an animal and who should be locked up. Just like the thugs who attacked the TC school boy at the English school incident it is brushed under the carpet and unimportant and not a big issue when the victim is a TC. Thats how it would be in a united Cyprus we will be reduced to second class citizens in our own country.


Who burned the brand new Jeep of my friend Dr Economou at the ceremony at Ayioa Mamas church in Morphou? who burned another 2 cars the same day? Who was ever questioned by your police? Who was ever convicted?

Who crucified you and who used that as an excuse????


Who was ever convicted for these? --->
http://www.hri.org/Cyprus/Cyprus_Problem/enclaves.html

Dozens of articles were written in the foreign press about the inhumane living conditions the enclaved are suffering in the occupied areas. We mention only a few of them:
The Sunday Times, 6 November 1977 In an article dated 6/11/1977, the English newspaper The Sunday Times reports the following: "accounts of a widow's murder and of another alleged murder and an attempted murder have been revealed by refugees. Greek Cypriots say the murder was only the latest in a series of incidents in the township of Rizokarpaso, in the isolated north eastern tip of the divided island, aimed at terrorising the township's remaining Greeks into fleeing south and leaving their property for the Turks. The Cyprus government has asked the United Nations peace-keeping force to investigate all three "but the Turks don't allow us to investigate", said a U.N. spokesman."

Die Weltwoche, 30 August 1978 In a report published on 30/8/1978 in the German-language Swiss newspaper, Die Weltwoche, Peter Schmid, who visited the occupied part of Cyprus as a guest of the Denktash regime, describes the experience he had during a visit to Rizokarpaso, which reveals the state of terror under which the enclaved live. I ordered a drink at the Greek tavern and when the proprietor brought it, I followed him into the kitchen to talk to him in private. The grey-haired man avoided my eyes and evaded every question. "Speak freely," I urged him. "That would be the end", he whispered. Outside, in a covered market place, I found that several hundred Greeks, mainly wrinkled old people had gathered together. When their clothing is distributed, their names are called out and the items of charity are thrown to the recipient."
Milliyet, 8-14 January 1979 A Turkish journalist, Refik Erduran, confirms that the enclaved live under inhuman conditions and speaks of the need to rectify this situation, as it would serve Turkish propaganda. In a series of seven articles on the Cyprus problem, published in the Instanbul daily Milliyet (8-14/1/79) he writes that the Cyprus government "repairs and maintains even the empty Turkish Cypriot houses. It also makes sure that the foreigners on the island observe this fact. But the money spent is well worth the positive impression it creates. We too had a trump card we could use in the same way. We could ensure that the handful of Greek Cypriots who remain in the Karpass peninsula could achieve a higher standard of living than the one they enjoyed before. We could meet their educational, transportation and health needs; we could prevent any settler from moving into their villages, we could make sure that they would not feel uncomfortable in any way, we could provide them with credits and agricultural aid. We could almost force them to live better. We could do all this at a cost of 5 to 10 million Turkish liras and the region would pay this money back in produce in a few years. Then we could exhibit this showcase to the whole world.
But we did not do any of these things. Our inadequacy in propaganda springs not from lack of words but from our inability to make proper use of such opportunities."
24 Heures, 3 June 1980 Having visited Cyprus in 1980, Gilberate Favre of the French-language Swiss newspaper 24 Heures, reported the following:
"The number of Greek Cypriot refugees is not about to diminish for nearly everyday, Cypriots enclaved in the Karpass region, in the Famagusta district, are expelled by the Turkish army.
"A quarter of an hour to leave everything" According to refugees' testimonies, the methods of intimidation of the Turkish army are diverse. First of all, there is the daily war of humiliations and "punishments" to give an example of them. There is also an attempt to give this policy of expulsion an aspect of legality although, in actual fact, it is contrary to the Charter of Human Rights. "I was given a quarter of an hour to leave my house and my village", a refugee says. "Turkish soldiers made me sign a statement according to which I wanted to leave my village. Then they took me to the U.N. zone and showed my statement to U.N. soldiers." ... Nodding his head saddly, an old man, who has lived under Turkish occupation for four years, tells me that he was willing to put up with almost anything in order to remain in his house and in his ancestral village."
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Sep 30, 2007 9:49 pm

Bull shit the GCs living in Karpaz have been exploited by you people over and over again b yusing them as an example to the international community ofhow we treat those few left in the north, but in contrast we have given them their own school do the TC in Limasol have theirs? hypocrites abound...
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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:26 pm

VP you are full of shit......... you beat em up, your took away their livelyhood and land and now you want change. Get a grip
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:59 pm

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Nobody made even a faint attempt to answer my question as to why the serious incidence was not reported. Not even by the "Politis" journalists, who were the first to learn about it.


Bananiot,

Please help me understand something on how the press works in the RoC. When similar incidents happen that involves only GC's on GC's , or GC's on the British, or GC's on Indians or any other Nationalities, do they get coverage in all the papers or any coverage at all, or is it your expectation that this incident should make front page, just because it was GC on a TC. In other words, if the GC on Indian incident does not get any coverage, why should a GC on TC. Somehow, this incident is no different than a bar fight, a husband beating his wife, or any other incident that does not require anyone being taken to the hospital, so the question is, do the examples I gave above get any coverage in the papers, in the RoC.
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Postby karma » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Nobody made even a faint attempt to answer my question as to why the serious incidence was not reported. Not even by the "Politis" journalists, who were the first to learn about it.


Bananiot,

Please help me understand something on how the press works in the RoC. When similar incidents happen that involves only GC's on GC's , or GC's on the British, or GC's on Indians or any other Nationalities, do they get coverage in all the papers or any coverage at all, or is it your expectation that this incident should make front page, just because it was GC on a TC. In other words, if the GC on Indian incident does not get any coverage, why should a GC on TC. Somehow, this incident is no different than a bar fight, a husband beating his wife, or any other incident that does not require anyone being taken to the hospital, so the question is, do the examples I gave above get any coverage in the papers, in the RoC.


U r wrong, racist attacks shld get coverage again and again..so tht jerks shld come to know Cyprus is not El Paso.. and it shld get coverage 10 times more incase it is between TC and GC..thts the only way to fight them back..in both sides.
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Postby phoenix » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:20 pm

karma wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Nobody made even a faint attempt to answer my question as to why the serious incidence was not reported. Not even by the "Politis" journalists, who were the first to learn about it.


Bananiot,

Please help me understand something on how the press works in the RoC. When similar incidents happen that involves only GC's on GC's , or GC's on the British, or GC's on Indians or any other Nationalities, do they get coverage in all the papers or any coverage at all, or is it your expectation that this incident should make front page, just because it was GC on a TC. In other words, if the GC on Indian incident does not get any coverage, why should a GC on TC. Somehow, this incident is no different than a bar fight, a husband beating his wife, or any other incident that does not require anyone being taken to the hospital, so the question is, do the examples I gave above get any coverage in the papers, in the RoC.


U r wrong, racist attacks shld get coverage again and again..so tht jerks shld come to know Cyprus is not El Paso.. and it shld get coverage 10 times more incase it is between TC and GC..thts the only way to fight them back..in both sides.


Isn't that doubly-racist (if there is such a thing :shock: ) to say that there should be 10x more coverage for one group of people vs another?

And Karma, most places are not El Paso, racism is as ubiquitous as humans!
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Postby karma » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:25 pm

phoenix wrote:
karma wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Nobody made even a faint attempt to answer my question as to why the serious incidence was not reported. Not even by the "Politis" journalists, who were the first to learn about it.


Bananiot,

Please help me understand something on how the press works in the RoC. When similar incidents happen that involves only GC's on GC's , or GC's on the British, or GC's on Indians or any other Nationalities, do they get coverage in all the papers or any coverage at all, or is it your expectation that this incident should make front page, just because it was GC on a TC. In other words, if the GC on Indian incident does not get any coverage, why should a GC on TC. Somehow, this incident is no different than a bar fight, a husband beating his wife, or any other incident that does not require anyone being taken to the hospital, so the question is, do the examples I gave above get any coverage in the papers, in the RoC.


U r wrong, racist attacks shld get coverage again and again..so tht jerks shld come to know Cyprus is not El Paso.. and it shld get coverage 10 times more incase it is between TC and GC..thts the only way to fight them back..in both sides.


Isn't that doubly-racist (if there is such a thing :shock: ) to say that there should be 10x more coverage for one group of people vs another?

And Karma, most places are not El Paso, racism is as ubiquitous as humans!


it is not about being less or more racists...India did not involve 74 war..and Cyprus problem is there not coz of Indians... :roll: it must be emphasized if the attacks are against GC or TC citizens..
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:28 pm

karma wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
Nobody made even a faint attempt to answer my question as to why the serious incidence was not reported. Not even by the "Politis" journalists, who were the first to learn about it.


Bananiot,

Please help me understand something on how the press works in the RoC. When similar incidents happen that involves only GC's on GC's , or GC's on the British, or GC's on Indians or any other Nationalities, do they get coverage in all the papers or any coverage at all, or is it your expectation that this incident should make front page, just because it was GC on a TC. In other words, if the GC on Indian incident does not get any coverage, why should a GC on TC. Somehow, this incident is no different than a bar fight, a husband beating his wife, or any other incident that does not require anyone being taken to the hospital, so the question is, do the examples I gave above get any coverage in the papers, in the RoC.


U r wrong, racist attacks shld get coverage again and again..so tht jerks shld come to know Cyprus is not El Paso.. and it shld get coverage 10 times more incase it is between TC and GC..thts the only way to fight them back..in both sides.


Karma,

I'm not saying it should not have gotten any coverage, the question was, does similar incidents get any coverage at all. Of course all racist acts should be reported, prosecuted and named and shamed. I'm just asking the question, whether such incidents involving other nationalities gets any coverage at all, and if not, why would our good friend Bananiot is surprised, if an incident involving a TC hasn't gotten any coverage either.

I don't know why if an Indian guy is beaten up should get 10 times less attention or coverage than if a TC is beaten up. Doesn't that lends itself to be called Racism and Prejudicism against all other nationals Karma. Are we not going to apply equal law to everyone in the RoC or is it some individuals lives are worth more than others.
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Postby humanist » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:28 pm

Karma I agree with you. I would go further to say that the RoC needs to make policies and change laws so that racial violence carry a heavier penalty so that it can be a preventative measure.

If the incident did occur then it should be reported. My opinion on this matter the arguments presented here are always one sided. Furthemore no TC ever condones any violence or abuse on property toward GC. That does not represent a fair debate, facts or views.
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Postby karma » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:32 pm

humanist wrote:Karma I agree with you. I would go further to say that the RoC needs to make policies and change laws so that racial violence carry a heavier penalty so that it can be a preventative measure.

If the incident did occur then it should be reported. My opinion on this matter the arguments presented here are always one sided. Furthemore no TC ever condones any violence or abuse on property toward GC. That does not represent a fair debate, facts or views.


Hi Andrea, then U will help us with our doco :wink: and may be we will be hanged together ..lol
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