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[phoenix]

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

No, recognition is not a 'most fundamental principle of existence'. Just because you don't recognise someone passing by in the street doesn't meant that s/he doesn't exist. Similarly with legal recognition.

Diplomatic Recognition is the formal acknowledgement by a country that another country or state has the status of an independent nation. Without that recognition then you do not EXIST and are therefore moribund.

Cognitive recognition is just an appreciation.

Therefore...Being recognised by Turkey should satisfy your criteria

Turkey does not Recognize the pseudo-TRNC . . . it just thinks it is an extension of Turkey . . so it only recognizes itself.
Doesn't count
Any more novel ideas?

[Viewpoint]

There’s obviously a surge in TC confidence lately because they are under the FALSE impression that a recognition mechanism is in motion…

As an avid media gorging maniac, of both CyProb and international affairs, I can assure you that the “TRNC” is this much… …closer to recognition than it was this time last year.

Still the economy grows and all is welllllllllllllllllll. That is the point that VP is making...

So you are saying more money for what? private schools, holidays, new car? we have all that in the TRNC. This is definately a state of mind and TCs should realize that this overated "golden egg" is no more than another method of ramming what GCs want down your throats.

[zan]

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

No, recognition is not a 'most fundamental principle of existence'. Just because you don't recognise someone passing by in the street doesn't meant that s/he doesn't exist. Similarly with legal recognition.

Diplomatic Recognition is the formal acknowledgement by a country that another country or state has the status of an independent nation. Without that recognition then you do not EXIST and are therefore moribund.

Cognitive recognition is just an appreciation.

Therefore...Being recognised by Turkey should satisfy your criteria

Turkey does not Recognize the pseudo-TRNC . . . it just thinks it is an extension of Turkey . . so it only recognizes itself.
Doesn't count
Any more novel ideas?

I think you will find you are very wrong. All over the Net and the Greek columns you will see the words..."Recognised only by Turkey"

[Viewpoint]

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

No, recognition is not a 'most fundamental principle of existence'. Just because you don't recognise someone passing by in the street doesn't meant that s/he doesn't exist. Similarly with legal recognition.

Diplomatic Recognition is the formal acknowledgement by a country that another country or state has the status of an independent nation. Without that recognition then you do not EXIST and are therefore moribund.

Cognitive recognition is just an appreciation.

Therefore...Being recognised by Turkey should satisfy your criteria

Turkey does not Recognize the pseudo-TRNC . . . it just thinks it is an extension of Turkey . . so it only recognizes itself.
Doesn't count
Any more novel ideas?

So? what changes? why are you so concerned if you dont give a shit about the TRNC?

[Get Real!]

There’s obviously a surge in TC confidence lately because they are under the FALSE impression that a recognition mechanism is in motion…

As an avid media gorging maniac, of both CyProb and international affairs, I can assure you that the “TRNC” is this much… …closer to recognition than it was this time last year.

Still the economy grows and all is welllllllllllllllllll. That is the point that VP is making...

I am happy for you Zanny but just remember that the more it grows the less you can blame "embargos" and "isolation" so it's a double-edged sword...

[phoenix]

Viewpoint

I assume therefore that you accept you do not have recognition.

Can you give us your thoughts on why you have been denied recognition . .

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

What will it really change??

This is a cop out VP!

You ask if recognition is overrated as though you are pining for it. So to fix that and get your recognition you have to set things to rights.

Otherwise you have accepted that you are not recognized and all that comes with that will be denied you.

So what have you done wrong that the whole World refuses to recognize you?

Of course we are not recognized by any country but Turkey, we are not stupid, the question is not what have we done whats done is done, the real question is what will really change with recognition and is it a tool for GCs to exploit when like you are doing right now to try and get us to dissolve the TRNC and accept Gcs demands. As long as we believe and want the TRNC to exsist no one can take it away unless like Piratis always says the swing of power goes his way a risk I am prepared to take as recognition would probably arrive way before and swings or roundabouts for that matter

So you are confessing something was done to put you in this non-recognition state. That's halfway there. Now address the actual crimes?

As for "believing" and wanting the TRNC to exist, well now you are moving in the realms of fairy stories . . . I believe Zan is good at those too

[zan]

There’s obviously a surge in TC confidence lately because they are under the FALSE impression that a recognition mechanism is in motion…

As an avid media gorging maniac, of both CyProb and international affairs, I can assure you that the “TRNC” is this much… …closer to recognition than it was this time last year.

Still the economy grows and all is welllllllllllllllllll. That is the point that VP is making...

I am happy for you Zanny but just remember that the more it grows the less you can blame "embargos" and "isolation" so it's a double-edged sword...

Needs must and when the need is no longer there then we can stop....Doesn't take much to figure that one out....

[phoenix]

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

No, recognition is not a 'most fundamental principle of existence'. Just because you don't recognise someone passing by in the street doesn't meant that s/he doesn't exist. Similarly with legal recognition.

Diplomatic Recognition is the formal acknowledgement by a country that another country or state has the status of an independent nation. Without that recognition then you do not EXIST and are therefore moribund.

Cognitive recognition is just an appreciation.

Therefore...Being recognised by Turkey should satisfy your criteria

Turkey does not Recognize the pseudo-TRNC . . . it just thinks it is an extension of Turkey . . so it only recognizes itself.
Doesn't count
Any more novel ideas?

I think you will find you are very wrong. All over the Net and the Greek columns you will see the words..."Recognised only by Turkey"

Exactly! Turkey recognizes its own existence and its extended outposts.

What's the matter? Have you got cold feet now that your are a "bit" of Turkey?
Its ok . . not for long. We'll have you back, scrub you clean and reprogramme you to fit in with the civilized, recognized nations.

[zan]

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

No, recognition is not a 'most fundamental principle of existence'. Just because you don't recognise someone passing by in the street doesn't meant that s/he doesn't exist. Similarly with legal recognition.

Diplomatic Recognition is the formal acknowledgement by a country that another country or state has the status of an independent nation. Without that recognition then you do not EXIST and are therefore moribund.

Cognitive recognition is just an appreciation.

Therefore...Being recognised by Turkey should satisfy your criteria

Turkey does not Recognize the pseudo-TRNC . . . it just thinks it is an extension of Turkey . . so it only recognizes itself.
Doesn't count
Any more novel ideas?

I think you will find you are very wrong. All over the Net and the Greek columns you will see the words..."Recognised only by Turkey"

Exactly! Turkey recognizes its own existence and its extended outposts.

What's the matter? Have you got cold feet now that your are a "bit" of Turkey?
Its ok . . not for long. We'll have you back, scrub you clean and reprogramme you to fit in with the civilized, recognized nations.

Have you been drinking......Turkey refers to us as the TRNC/KKTC and that is what we are. After that Turkey and us decide what we want to be.

[phoenix]

It seems that now you are left whimsically wondering whether you need this otherwise most fundamental principle of existence.

No, recognition is not a 'most fundamental principle of existence'. Just because you don't recognise someone passing by in the street doesn't meant that s/he doesn't exist. Similarly with legal recognition.

Diplomatic Recognition is the formal acknowledgement by a country that another country or state has the status of an independent nation. Without that recognition then you do not EXIST and are therefore moribund.

Cognitive recognition is just an appreciation.

Therefore...Being recognised by Turkey should satisfy your criteria

Turkey does not Recognize the pseudo-TRNC . . . it just thinks it is an extension of Turkey . . so it only recognizes itself.
Doesn't count
Any more novel ideas?

So? what changes? why are you so concerned if you dont give a shit about the TRNC?

I don't give a shit about the "TRNC" because I don't recognize that it exists.
What will change is that the North will get true recognition again when the Turks leave and it is back to being the missing bit of the RoC.