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[DT.]

Eric the price is not having direct post or not having direct flights or not being able to play with a foreign football team, so what, its all a state of mind and GCs play on this to try and make us feel like we are missing out on something.

They gave it a good go didn't they but where did it get them?

If that was the case TCs would have flocked south to share this wonderland called recognition. After the initial intrigue no one gives a shit about what goes on in the south

The TCs have learned to get on with their lives and that it's a hell of a lot safer in an unrecognised TRBC then living in a "recognised RoC" as second class citizens and looked on as "foreigners" and just tolerated.

even the workers come home after a hard days graft to the TRNC, where they belong.

And spend their earnings in the KKTC.

Sod it all, so we don't have 3 cars to ever home or 1 less flat screen TV, so bloody what at least we don't have to put up with GCs tell us what to do in a GC state.

Exactly mate, so what? At least no one is starving or living in caves or tents like we were forced to from 1963 to 1974 when the GCs were murdering our people for their ENOSIS dream.

The GCs think that just by dangling the "recognition" carrot in front of us we would drop everything and allow ourselves to be "assimilated" into a Greek Cypriot and consequently into a Greek society.


Avuclarini yalasinlar.

I went to get the birth certificate for my little girl today. At the district administration office there were 2 offices one for Rum and one for Turks. There was only one person serving us Rums which was fine since we only had 2 people in our queue but there were 4 people serving the TC office. I started talking with one of the fmailies while we waited, (their little girl was playing mummy with my little girl) and i asked the guy what he was doing here. His exact words were the TRNC is nice and symbolic but i want whats best for my kids and thats for them to be citizens of cyprus.

I wondered whether this person knew he was taking on the passport of a murdering thieving society which only wants enosis....I guess his reply would have been that his little girl goes to kindergarden over here as well....thats how much his fear is. I also met TC's who live over here permanently...strange how they're still alive, still speak turkish and still consider themselves TC.

[DT.]

sorry i forgot that we need to argue in eric "cartman" Dayi style so please add


"Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it"

at the end of my last post

[zan]

Eric the price is not having direct post or not having direct flights or not being able to play with a foreign football team, so what, its all a state of mind and GCs play on this to try and make us feel like we are missing out on something.

They gave it a good go didn't they but where did it get them?

If that was the case TCs would have flocked south to share this wonderland called recognition. After the initial intrigue no one gives a shit about what goes on in the south

The TCs have learned to get on with their lives and that it's a hell of a lot safer in an unrecognised TRBC then living in a "recognised RoC" as second class citizens and looked on as "foreigners" and just tolerated.

even the workers come home after a hard days graft to the TRNC, where they belong.

And spend their earnings in the KKTC.

Sod it all, so we don't have 3 cars to ever home or 1 less flat screen TV, so bloody what at least we don't have to put up with GCs tell us what to do in a GC state.

Exactly mate, so what? At least no one is starving or living in caves or tents like we were forced to from 1963 to 1974 when the GCs were murdering our people for their ENOSIS dream.

The GCs think that just by dangling the "recognition" carrot in front of us we would drop everything and allow ourselves to be "assimilated" into a Greek Cypriot and consequently into a Greek society.


Avuclarini yalasinlar.

I went to get the birth certificate for my little girl today. At the district administration office there were 2 offices one for Rum and one for Turks. There was only one person serving us Rums which was fine since we only had 2 people in our queue but there were 4 people serving the TC office. I started talking with one of the fmailies while we waited, (their little girl was playing mummy with my little girl) and i asked the guy what he was doing here. His exact words were the TRNC is nice and symbolic but i want whats best for my kids and thats for them to be citizens of cyprus.

I wondered whether this person knew he was taking on the passport of a murdering thieving society which only wants enosis....I guess his reply would have been that his little girl goes to kindergarden over here as well....thats how much his fear is. I also met TC's who live over here permanently...strange how they're still alive, still speak turkish and still consider themselves TC.

And still live in the TRNC/KKTC....

[DT.]

Eric the price is not having direct post or not having direct flights or not being able to play with a foreign football team, so what, its all a state of mind and GCs play on this to try and make us feel like we are missing out on something.

They gave it a good go didn't they but where did it get them?

If that was the case TCs would have flocked south to share this wonderland called recognition. After the initial intrigue no one gives a shit about what goes on in the south

The TCs have learned to get on with their lives and that it's a hell of a lot safer in an unrecognised TRBC then living in a "recognised RoC" as second class citizens and looked on as "foreigners" and just tolerated.

even the workers come home after a hard days graft to the TRNC, where they belong.

And spend their earnings in the KKTC.

Sod it all, so we don't have 3 cars to ever home or 1 less flat screen TV, so bloody what at least we don't have to put up with GCs tell us what to do in a GC state.

Exactly mate, so what? At least no one is starving or living in caves or tents like we were forced to from 1963 to 1974 when the GCs were murdering our people for their ENOSIS dream.

The GCs think that just by dangling the "recognition" carrot in front of us we would drop everything and allow ourselves to be "assimilated" into a Greek Cypriot and consequently into a Greek society.


Avuclarini yalasinlar.

I went to get the birth certificate for my little girl today. At the district administration office there were 2 offices one for Rum and one for Turks. There was only one person serving us Rums which was fine since we only had 2 people in our queue but there were 4 people serving the TC office. I started talking with one of the fmailies while we waited, (their little girl was playing mummy with my little girl) and i asked the guy what he was doing here. His exact words were the TRNC is nice and symbolic but i want whats best for my kids and thats for them to be citizens of cyprus.

I wondered whether this person knew he was taking on the passport of a murdering thieving society which only wants enosis....I guess his reply would have been that his little girl goes to kindergarden over here as well....thats how much his fear is. I also met TC's who live over here permanently...strange how they're still alive, still speak turkish and still consider themselves TC.

And still live in the TRNC/KKTC....

[CopperLine]

I share DT's sense of the relative ease with which many TCs and GCs can cross the line. Probably like most people on this forum I know many TCs, GCs, Greeks, Turks here and abroad who at a personal level have absolutely no hostility to each other, are good friends and so on. (We should remind ourselves every now and again that this fishbowl of a forum is not really representative of what many people are thinking and doing).

I'm all for increasing contacts and exchanges and trying to 'normalise' -horrible word - relations between peoples. If there is no movement at the top then let's a encourage ordinary people at the bottom to make things happen. An active democratic people is, in my view, the appropriate response - sure we'll make mistakes, put the wrong foot forward, but we'll also live and learn.

[DT.]

I share DT's sense of the relative ease with which many TCs and GCs can cross the line. Probably like most people on this forum I know many TCs, GCs, Greeks, Turks here and abroad who at a personal level have absolutely no hostility to each other, are good friends and so on. (We should remind ourselves every now and again that this fishbowl of a forum is not really representative of what many people are thinking and doing).

I'm all for increasing contacts and exchanges and trying to 'normalise' -horrible word - relations between peoples. If there is no movement at the top then let's a encourage ordinary people at the bottom to make things happen. An active democratic people is, in my view, the appropriate response - sure we'll make mistakes, put the wrong foot forward, but we'll also live and learn.

nice

[boomerang]

I share DT's sense of the relative ease with which many TCs and GCs can cross the line. Probably like most people on this forum I know many TCs, GCs, Greeks, Turks here and abroad who at a personal level have absolutely no hostility to each other, are good friends and so on. (We should remind ourselves every now and again that this fishbowl of a forum is not really representative of what many people are thinking and doing).

I'm all for increasing contacts and exchanges and trying to 'normalise' -horrible word - relations between peoples. If there is no movement at the top then let's a encourage ordinary people at the bottom to make things happen. An active democratic people is, in my view, the appropriate response - sure we'll make mistakes, put the wrong foot forward, but we'll also live and learn.

Well said copperline...I take it from the we that you are cypriot?

[Nikitas]

When Eric has some time I would like himt o help me assimilate into Greek society,

I have been living in Athens for 33 years and still have not managed to assimilate and i am only half Cypriot, my mother is Greek. I am still regarded as a Cypriot at all levels, personal as well as official.

Maybe you guys (Eric, Zan, VP) could tell me how to switch on my osmosis process and blend in more. On the other hand we could settle this micky mouse problem and I can go back to Famagusta and really blend in. Is keeping me away from Famagusta somehow keeping you safe from osmosising and assimilating?

[Eric dayi]

When Eric has some time I would like himt o help me assimilate into Greek society,

I have been living in Athens for 33 years and still have not managed to assimilate and i am only half Cypriot, my mother is Greek. I am still regarded as a Cypriot at all levels, personal as well as official.

Thank you Nikitas, you have explained my (our) fear perfectly.

Maybe you guys (Eric, Zan, VP) could tell me how to switch on my osmosis process and blend in more.

Fill in the dotted lines Nikitas.

If as a half-Greek and after 33 years you are still regarded as a "Cypriot" "at all levels" then how do you expect us TCs to believe that the GCs will accept us TCs as "........" and as their "..........." and not just as "....."?

On the other hand we could settle this micky mouse problem and I can go back to Famagusta and really blend in.

You can go back and blend in.

Is keeping me away from Famagusta somehow keeping you safe from osmosising and assimilating?

Keeping GC rule out is what is keeping us safe from"osmosising and assimilating".

[Eric dayi]

sorry i forgot that we need to argue in eric "cartman" Dayi style so please add


"Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it"

at the end of my last post

zan has already given you the answer so all that remains for me to say is "Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it".