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[michalis]

The cost of settlement is an IRRELEVANT COST because it will have to be occured in any way.

Settlement First of all makes the Cyprus Economy in much much stronger and more COMPETITIVE!

By Improving relations with Turkey we gain access to the huge Turkish Market .

Turksih Organisations are encouraged of Investing in Cyprus.

Cypus Organisations are encouraged of investing in Turkey TAking into account the short distances between Turkey and Cyprus.

All Restrictions that we currently have with trade etc are abandoned.

Encouraging stability and security on the region will attract higher levels of International Investment.

Atracting higher levels of toursim funds from Turkey.

After a solutions Millions of funds will be donated by the whole International community as an aid of the Reconstruction of the NORTH.

Cyprus economy is made more COMPETTITIVE due to operation of more companies . AND The Cyprus MArket is becoming much bigger.

WITHOUT A SOLUTION ALL THE ABOVE ARE LOST AND NOTHING ARE GAINED !

SO what are the CONCLUSIONS Of COURSE SETTLEMENT WILL make economy much much stronger in the long term !

[Greek Cypriot]

And who are you that you are saying these? Or what are your sources?

Almost all real economists disagree with your final conclusion.
Sure there can be some benefits. But those benefits are too little of a gain and our balance sheet at the end of the day shows a huge loss.

[Guest]

PLUS OTHER INTERNAL BENEFITS:

The British Bases in Cyprus have offered 50% of their current land occupied in case UN plan is accepted.

According to lawers 90,000 of refugees are able to settle down at their original properties. AND OF Course all the above benefits are BETTER For NOTHING and ARE BETTER THAN DREAMS !

Of course those that prefer to dream for ever ! OR those that have been benefited greatly and acquiring great pwerful positions with Division will VOTE NO !

[michalis]

I do not need to aggree with any economist in Cyprus!

Instead of criticizing the plan it would have been more helpful If you could propose something instead because Its ctiticism which I hear all the time.

And who are the real economist? Even If you can read international sources and articles thats what they support all the time because this is the LAW of Economics.

[Greek Cypriot]

BETTER For NOTHING and ARE BETTER THAN DREAMS !

Worst from what we have now.


If its better for you vote "yes". I am not going to vote "yes" to serve your interests. sorry.

[metecyp]

Worst from what we have now.

And as we discussed many times before, what you have is not what you are supposed to have...I guess I need to keep repeating myself.

[Greek Cypriot]

Worst from what we have now.

And as we discussed many times before, what you have is not what you are supposed to have...I guess I need to keep repeating myself.

What we are supposed to have is Republic of Cyprus with authority over the whole island of Cyprus and no troops of occupation.
It is really funny that you come to tell me this. You are the Turkish Cypriot, and the Turkish troops are the reason for not having what we are supposed to have, and not me!

[metecyp]

What we are supposed to have is Republic of Cyprus with authority over the whole island of Cyprus and no troops of occupation.

Correct but incomplete. We are supposed to have Republic of Cyprus WITH T/C participation with authority over the whole island of Cyprus and the rest follows. There's a huge difference between Republic of Cyprus formed in 1960 by T/Cs and G/Cs and the Hellenized Republic of Cyprus now.

It is really funny that you come to tell me this. You are the Turkish Cypriot, and the Turkish troops are the reason for not having what we are supposed to have, and not me!

Oh yeah, let's blame it all on Turkish troops. There were no Turkish troops on the island between 1963-1974 and T/Cs were still not represented in Republic of Cyprus (for whatever reason) and on top of that, extremists organized the coup to unite Cyprus with Greece in 1974. Now I guess that was our fault as well?

I accept my share of the responsibility. Yes, Turkish troops are part of the reason why we don't have the Republic of Cyprus that we wish to have but at the same time you cannot deny the mistakes of your side that led to T/C exclusion from the government. And there's still no concrete effort to get T/Cs back into Republic of Cyprus (except some minority rights thrown here and there).

[Greek Cypriot]

Yes, in the past we made mistakes too. But if we keep going to the past then we will go to the ottoman empire, to byzantium etc ... do you want to start a discussion about that?

The problem is who is dividing the island today.

[metecyp]

And the bigger problem is who are benefitting from the division? For example, in the north, people who got rich in 1974 benefit from the division. Similarly, in the south, people who do not want T/C participation in the government surely benefits from the division, division gives them a wall to hide behind, or an excuse to own the whole government.

If everyone on both sides really wanted to end the division, Cyprus could not be divided this long. So, you can choose the easy way out and blame Turkish army for everything, but without cooperation of Cypriots (on both sides), Cyprus could not stay divided this long.

And, now you still say no solution is better than a bad solution, meaning you prefer division to an imperfect union, which is sad.