DT. wrote:zan wrote:Piratis wrote:utu wrote:Get Real, The tone of your posts are doing noone any favors here. Your referring to expatkiwi as a 'scumbag' and referring to Eric dayi as 'someone who makes me laugh' rings rather hollow after other forum members refer to you as a blackmailer. It doesn't help you, or your cause if you have to refer to antagonism and threats. The term 'moral high ground' comes to mind.
Piratus, Your comments regarding foreign interests and how it relates to the Cyprus problem is food for thought. The island is in a strategic location in Eurasia and as such, one has to wonder who - outside of Turkey, Greece, and the UK - would benefit most from the status quo.
The real issue is - IMHO - what do the people living in Cyprus want? I suppose that peace is the answer, but under what terms? Expatkiwi's observation of 'divorced couples not being able to live together under one roof' is a valid simile, so forced amalgamation would end up reigniting conflict. What is left? Reconciliation really cannot take place until mutual suspicions are removed. It doesn't leave many choices, does it?
If somebody came and told you "Give me your land and property or face conflict with me" what would you do? We of course have the right to fight to defend what belongs to us against those that have no right to demand it.
TCs are not the only ethnic minority in the world, and Cyprus is not the only country that had some conflict between its ethnic groups in the past. Just like ethnic groups in other countries have learned to coexist under a democratic state where each citizen is equal without racist discriminations and without one trying to steal the land of another, so can we.
The problem is that the Turks want to use brute force in order to gain on our loss, and as long as they choose conflict they should be sure that we will fight for our rights and not capitulate.
Therefore the solution is not "force the majority of Cypriots* to capitulate and give up their rights and land", but "force the TCs/Turkey to accept what is the norm in every other country in the world"(Even Turkey itself with its 20% Kurdish community!!)
* With "majority of Cypriots" above I don't refer only to GCs, but to Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots and everybody else who has the Cypriot citizenship. We (all Cypriots except TCs) will not accept to become second category citizens. The Turks should realize that the Ottoman era is over, and now they have to accept democracy and human rights, and they can not impose by force whatever they feel like.
For once and for all numbskull...We are not an ethnic minority but partners in Cyprus and we will accept nothing else!!!
Hey! I thought we're debating in UTU style now....whats with the insults Zan?
Please accept my apologies......I forgot the Forum protocol for a minute.
I spent a while telling utu that we are uncouth farmers and you all start to behave like gentlemen
