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[Eliko]

Don't remember mentioning 'Free Fall' bombing, do you ?

Yes you did, you used an altitude of 6 miles whish is free fall bombing.

Fool

Proven fact I'm afraid, look it up.

Not necessarily.

[Filitsa]

I don't know, Miltiades. These people have been traumatized, so I have difficulty exacting value judgment upon them. .

Wouldn't you be traumatised if you with your child/mother/father/brother/sister/ husband or wife were visting a pet market, a petrol station, a mosque, a bus queue, hospital in fact anywhere that it is normal to be and some muslim terrorist detonated a bomb nearby sending bits of body parts showering down on you?

Very few of these people were actualy hurt during the coalition attacks the vast majority have been the victims of their own religious group, muslim terrorists.

Yes, FreeSpirit, I would indeed be traumatized under these conditions.

More than enough were killed or mamed during the coalition attacks. I would be traumatized by this too. If bombs were falling around you, and coalition forces pointing M16's were banging down your door, wouldn't you?

[FreeSpirit]

Don't remember mentioning 'Free Fall' bombing, do you ?

Yes you did, you used an altitude of 6 miles whish is free fall bombing.

Fool

Proven fact I'm afraid, look it up.

Not necessarily.

Pardon?

[Filitsa]

By the way, Eliko. Although I heard of the account of this mother on National Public Radio News, I've yet to read about it in the newspapers. Hmmm . . .

Filitsa, that is probably because the possibility exists that this 'Mother' does not.

A clever piece of propaganda for the perusal of the masses perhaps ?.

We can no longer rely on anything we are 'Allowed' to be informed of by our press, therefore we are compelled to rely on our own judgement when it comes to determining responsibility for every act of slaughter.

Can we even be sure of the fact that the two alleged female suicide bombers were suffering from 'Downs Syndrome' ?.

It adds a little more spice to the atrocity if we are informed that they were.

There are so many others ready to commit themselves to 'Martyrdom' it just seems a little illogical to me that they should be so used.

As a propaganda weapon, an excellent psychological ploy, cunning and devastatingly effective in stirring up even more hatred, WE will never know.

In my humble opinion.

Man, are you jaded or what, Eliko?!

I listen to NPR because it reports news from a less mainstream perspective. Consequently, I'm inclined to believe that this woman's situation existed.

From an AP report in my local newspaper on the 2 female Down Syndrome suicide bombers:

"While involving women in such deadly activity violates cultural taboos in Iraq, the U.S. military has warned that al-Qaida is recruiting women and young people as suicide attackers because militants are increasingly desperate to thwart stepped-up security measures."

And where cultural taboos are religious taboos in that part of the world, so much for the jihad excuse. ... Or perhaps women with Down Syndrome don't qualify as women in that part of the world?

[FreeSpirit]

By the way, Eliko. Although I heard of the account of this mother on National Public Radio News, I've yet to read about it in the newspapers. Hmmm . . .

Filitsa, that is probably because the possibility exists that this 'Mother' does not.

A clever piece of propaganda for the perusal of the masses perhaps ?.

We can no longer rely on anything we are 'Allowed' to be informed of by our press, therefore we are compelled to rely on our own judgement when it comes to determining responsibility for every act of slaughter.

Can we even be sure of the fact that the two alleged female suicide bombers were suffering from 'Downs Syndrome' ?.

It adds a little more spice to the atrocity if we are informed that they were.

There are so many others ready to commit themselves to 'Martyrdom' it just seems a little illogical to me that they should be so used.

As a propaganda weapon, an excellent psychological ploy, cunning and devastatingly effective in stirring up even more hatred, WE will never know.

In my humble opinion.

Man, are you jaded or what, Eliko?!

I listen to NPR because it reports news from a less mainstream perspective. Consequently, I'm inclined to believe that this woman's situation existed.

From an AP report in my local newspaper on the 2 female Down Syndrome suicide bombers:

"While involving women in such deadly activity violates cultural taboos in Iraq, the U.S. military has warned that al-Qaida is recruiting women and young people as suicide attackers because militants are increasingly desperate to thwart stepped-up security measures."

And where cultural taboos are religious taboos in that part of the world, so much for the jihad excuse. ... Or perhaps women with Down Syndrome don't qualify as women in that part of the world?

Very well said Filitsa

[Eliko]

By the way, Eliko. Although I heard of the account of this mother on National Public Radio News, I've yet to read about it in the newspapers. Hmmm . . .

Filitsa, that is probably because the possibility exists that this 'Mother' does not.

A clever piece of propaganda for the perusal of the masses perhaps ?.

We can no longer rely on anything we are 'Allowed' to be informed of by our press, therefore we are compelled to rely on our own judgement when it comes to determining responsibility for every act of slaughter.

Can we even be sure of the fact that the two alleged female suicide bombers were suffering from 'Downs Syndrome' ?.

It adds a little more spice to the atrocity if we are informed that they were.

There are so many others ready to commit themselves to 'Martyrdom' it just seems a little illogical to me that they should be so used.

As a propaganda weapon, an excellent psychological ploy, cunning and devastatingly effective in stirring up even more hatred, WE will never know.

In my humble opinion.

Man, are you jaded or what, Eliko?!

I listen to NPR because it reports news from a less mainstream perspective. Consequently, I'm inclined to believe that this woman's situation existed.

From an AP report in my local newspaper on the 2 female Down Syndrome suicide bombers:

"While involving women in such deadly activity violates cultural taboos in Iraq, the U.S. military has warned that al-Qaida is recruiting women and young people as suicide attackers because militants are increasingly desperate to thwart stepped-up security measures."

And where cultural taboos are religious taboos in that part of the world, so much for the jihad excuse. ... Or perhaps women with Down Syndrome don't qualify as women in that part of the world?

Very well said Filitsa

Says FreeSpirit, once again failing to miss the point which, for HIS benefit IS:-

Taking into account the fact that there have been so many lies and distortions circulating the Iraq fiasco, THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS (or would you accept that it is an impossibility ?) that this Mother does not.

Judging by the enormity of the lies which preceded the unlawful attack on the innocent nation of Iraq, IF the media wished to create a horrifying scenario (and I stress the IF) then THIS possibility would be miniscule in comparison to those which also preceded it.

Trusting you may now be able to understand the significance of my observation (which I doubt), I will bid you Good-Night.

[miltiades]

By the way, Eliko. Although I heard of the account of this mother on National Public Radio News, I've yet to read about it in the newspapers. Hmmm . . .

Filitsa, that is probably because the possibility exists that this 'Mother' does not.

A clever piece of propaganda for the perusal of the masses perhaps ?.

We can no longer rely on anything we are 'Allowed' to be informed of by our press, therefore we are compelled to rely on our own judgement when it comes to determining responsibility for every act of slaughter.

Can we even be sure of the fact that the two alleged female suicide bombers were suffering from 'Downs Syndrome' ?.

It adds a little more spice to the atrocity if we are informed that they were.

There are so many others ready to commit themselves to 'Martyrdom' it just seems a little illogical to me that they should be so used.

As a propaganda weapon, an excellent psychological ploy, cunning and devastatingly effective in stirring up even more hatred, WE will never know.

In my humble opinion.

Man, are you jaded or what, Eliko?!

I listen to NPR because it reports news from a less mainstream perspective. Consequently, I'm inclined to believe that this woman's situation existed.

From an AP report in my local newspaper on the 2 female Down Syndrome suicide bombers:

"While involving women in such deadly activity violates cultural taboos in Iraq, the U.S. military has warned that al-Qaida is recruiting women and young people as suicide attackers because militants are increasingly desperate to thwart stepped-up security measures."

And where cultural taboos are religious taboos in that part of the world, so much for the jihad excuse. ... Or perhaps women with Down Syndrome don't qualify as women in that part of the world?

Very well said Filitsa

Says FreeSpirit, once again failing to miss the point which, for HIS benefit IS:-

Taking into account the fact that there have been so many lies and distortions circulating the Iraq fiasco, THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS (or would you accept that it is an impossibility ?) that this Mother does not.

Judging by the enormity of the lies which preceded the unlawful attack on the innocent nation of Iraq, IF the media wished to create a horrifying scenario (and I stress the IF) then THIS possibility would be miniscule in comparison to those which also preceded it.

Trusting you may now be able to understand the significance of my observation (which I doubt), I will bid you Good-Night.

I still can not believe that Eliko who appears to have a reasonable level of education when it comes to the department of logic and common sense HAS NONE !! Infuriatingly substandard assessments more suitable from illiterate Middle Eastern men with beards. He actually is the ONLY ONE who has suggested that the "Dawns Syndrome " connections are a fabricated propaganda !!! You never seize to amaze me with your preposterous theories , more so when you do your utmost to include your self as part of the West when you are in fact nothing of the sort. You detest America and the West in general. Democracy to you is the West's way of government , but you do not see that it also would be good for the third world, its like saying that penicillin might be therapeutic for us in the West but not necessarily for the third world , OR THAT ANARCHY MIGHT BE BAD FOR US IN THE WEST BUT FOR THEM IT IS THEIR WAY OF LIFE !!!

[FreeSpirit]

By the way, Eliko. Although I heard of the account of this mother on National Public Radio News, I've yet to read about it in the newspapers. Hmmm . . .

Filitsa, that is probably because the possibility exists that this 'Mother' does not.

A clever piece of propaganda for the perusal of the masses perhaps ?.

We can no longer rely on anything we are 'Allowed' to be informed of by our press, therefore we are compelled to rely on our own judgement when it comes to determining responsibility for every act of slaughter.

Can we even be sure of the fact that the two alleged female suicide bombers were suffering from 'Downs Syndrome' ?.

It adds a little more spice to the atrocity if we are informed that they were.

There are so many others ready to commit themselves to 'Martyrdom' it just seems a little illogical to me that they should be so used.

As a propaganda weapon, an excellent psychological ploy, cunning and devastatingly effective in stirring up even more hatred, WE will never know.

In my humble opinion.

Man, are you jaded or what, Eliko?!

I listen to NPR because it reports news from a less mainstream perspective. Consequently, I'm inclined to believe that this woman's situation existed.

From an AP report in my local newspaper on the 2 female Down Syndrome suicide bombers:

"While involving women in such deadly activity violates cultural taboos in Iraq, the U.S. military has warned that al-Qaida is recruiting women and young people as suicide attackers because militants are increasingly desperate to thwart stepped-up security measures."

And where cultural taboos are religious taboos in that part of the world, so much for the jihad excuse. ... Or perhaps women with Down Syndrome don't qualify as women in that part of the world?

Very well said Filitsa

Says FreeSpirit, once again failing to miss the point which, for HIS benefit IS:-

Taking into account the fact that there have been so many lies and distortions circulating the Iraq fiasco, THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS (or would you accept that it is an impossibility ?) that this Mother does not.

Judging by the enormity of the lies which preceded the unlawful attack on the innocent nation of Iraq, IF the media wished to create a horrifying scenario (and I stress the IF) then THIS possibility would be miniscule in comparison to those which also preceded it.

Trusting you may now be able to understand the significance of my observation (which I doubt), I will bid you Good-Night.

I still can not believe that Eliko who appears to have a reasonable level of education when it comes to the department of logic and common sense HAS NONE !! Infuriatingly substandard assessments more suitable from illiterate Middle Eastern men with beards. He actually is the ONLY ONE who has suggested that the "Dawns Syndrome " connections are a fabricated propaganda !!! You never seize to amaze me with your preposterous theories , more so when you do your utmost to include your self as part of the West when you are in fact nothing of the sort. You detest America and the West in general. Democracy to you is the West's way of government , but you do not see that it also would be good for the third world, its like saying that penicillin might be therapeutic for us in the West but not necessarily for the third world , OR THAT ANARCHY MIGHT BE BAD FOR US IN THE WEST BUT FOR THEM IT IS THEIR WAY OF LIFE !!!

It has been released that a medic at a/the care home (or whatever the iraq title is) provided information/details of the 'Downs Sydrome' victims for the terrorists.
Whatever the reason or excuse nobody in their right mind would say that the coalition is to blame, these terrorists have but one aim and that is to create instability and unrest by targeting their own people whilst laying the blame elsewhere.

[Eliko]

miltiades, Good Morning, and may I say that you seem to be in fine form again .

I have merely indicated that the possibility exists that WE are being fooled by the media when it makes it's reports on the situation in Iraq.

It occured to me that (as a good propoganda exercise) the graphic descriptions of such unfortunates as 'Downs Syndrome' sufferer's would add fuel to the fires of hatred already blazing in the hearts of those (who like yourself) are likely to believe everything they read in the gutter press.

Because I have the temerity to offer my opinion on what 'MIGHT' be the case, (and there is a very strong possibility that there is) if we take into account the fact that we have been consistantly lied to in the past, WHY must you immediately assume that I am a West hater?.

In actual fact miltiades, it is people like myself who protect you from even greater lies than you are already subjected to since we question those matters which we are suspicious of, thus ensuring that some rein is applied to the total freedom of those who lie to you.

Rather than condemn me, you should thank me for having the gift of perception necessary to spot such possibilities.

You should also try to probe a little deeper into that which I submit, you may be surprised my friend.

[FreeSpirit]

I have merely indicated that the possibility exists that WE are being fooled by the media when it makes it's reports on the situation in Iraq.
It occured to me that (as a good propoganda exercise) the graphic descriptions of such unfortunates as 'Downs Syndrome' sufferer's would add fuel to the fires of hatred already blazing in the hearts of those (who like yourself) are likely to believe everything they read in the gutter press.

Anyone can hypothesise till the end of time and eventualy they will come up with a solution that suits their particular agenda whilst discounting anything that doesn't.
You are actualy more likely to hear the truth from the BBC which has been criricised in parliament for given the left wing anti westerns view both in the gulf conflicts the Israel hazolah conflicts and way back to the Falklands campaign.
The true gutter press I call Al-jazeera which shows beheadings of western aid workers as if it is something to be glorified.