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[metecyp]

they already have accepted it when waiting on line to get there ROC passports.

Arrogance at its finest.

[boulio]

sorry metecyp im not trying to be arrogant,but presenting the truth.the minute and t/c asks for a passport(which by the way is his right)he acknoledges the existence of the roc,and is considered a citizen of that country.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Are there any avenues that exist that do not also require the TC to first accept that a solely GC run RoC is the sole and legitimate government of all of Cyprus (and all Cypriots) ? If there are I would interested in hearing them?

I would like to hear of ANY avenue available for refugees from Kyrenia reclaiming their properties in the so called TRNC.

The government of the RoC is the (ONLY)legitimate government of all of Cyprus.

TC extremists unilateraly withdrew themselves and from the Government of the RoC.

I would invite TCs to participate in the democratic functions of the RoC.

[insan]

Selling GC properties is the only option you left for TCs to survive

I wonder how many more crimes you will try to excuse. For every crime there is an excuse for you. Can't you sometimes accept that some things are simply wrong.

Piratis, according to you, TCs resitence against Enosis and "majority rule" was an excuse. The intervention of Turkey inorder to prevent Enosis and protect TCs from highly possible to be happened fascist massacre was yet again another excuse. Now you claim that selling the properties belongs to GCs in North is just another excuse and have no rational reasons. So can you please list which actions of TCs can be justified with rational reasons and which should be condemned as the excuses of "thieves"?

Defacto, illegal, wrong, consequence of a bigger wrong... These are all connote different things. As I said it before, after the 3rd Vienna Agreement the land that didn't belong to TCs should be returned immediately and no economic sanctions should be imposed upon TCs. It is obvious to me that one of the main motive of selling the GC land which they think they have the equivelant in the South is financial for TCs
Excuses or the only option they are left with?

[insan]

Are there any avenues that exist that do not also require the TC to first accept that a solely GC run RoC is the sole and legitimate government of all of Cyprus (and all Cypriots) ? If there are I would interested in hearing them?

they already have accepted it when waiting on line to get there ROC passports.

Sure Boulio. RoC not the "RoC". That passport represents the jointly established RoC. However "RoC" in its current form does not represent TCs. The passport we are getting is the passport of jointly established RoC. The passport of RoC is one of the few things you can't prevent us obtaining but you are continually trying to exploit.

[Viewpoint]

erolz

Are there any avenues that exist that do not also require the TC to first accept that a solely GC run RoC is the sole and legitimate government of all of Cyprus (and all Cypriots) ? If there are I would interested in hearing them?

You have to be resident in the south for more that 6 months before you have any rights and even if you get a judgement in your favour, previous decisions have been put on hold until finding a comprehensive solution whenever that maybe.

If your perfectly sound property in 1974 has been raised to the ground then you have the problem of proving to Greek Cypriot Courts that it was there in the first place, (if you say refer to deeds we all know that deeds were not as detailed as they are now).

[-mikkie2-]

I believe that land that has been expropriated in the south, in terms of percentages, an equal measure of TC and GC property has been affected. It is not just TC land that is expropriated!

I firmly believe that TC's should reclaim their land in the south. I also believe if they do, they must rescind the land they were given in the north. The problem the RoC has is there is nothing to stop a TC reclaiming land in the south, selling it, and then going back north again! This is the problem and that is why in pending cases, returning TC's are encouraged to take alternative land temporarily until such time as the political problem is solved. In the Arif case I believe he is being offered alternative property which the government gives him rent free. I'm not entirely sure though as there hasn't been much in the press recently about this case.

Just as I encourage GC refugees to file cases in the ECHR regarding their occupied land, I would also encourage TC's to reclaim their land in the south.

[Viewpoint]

Agios Amvrosios

The government of the RoC is the (ONLY)legitimate government of all of Cyprus

How can it be?? it has its heart missing 30%(TCs), where is the TCs representation??you only represent yourselves. There are around 1000 TCs living in the south who embrace RoC, why arent they invited to take their places in Government???ho sorry did they have any voting rights???

[boulio]

Sure Boulio. RoC not the "RoC". That passport represents the jointly established RoC. However "RoC" in its current form does not represent TCs. The passport we are getting is the passport of jointly established RoC. The passport of RoC is one of the few things you can't prevent us obtaining but you are continually trying to exploit.

who are we trying to exploit?and besides insan you may like to think whatever you like but the fact remains,and again im not saying this to be arrogant the ROC is the only govt on the island,you and turkey can put it paranthesis the fact remains that.

[insan]

im not saying this to be arrogant the ROC is the only govt on the island,you and turkey can put it paranthesis the fact remains that.

The defacto government of Cyprus gained with arts and wiles of the politics.