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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:42 pm

Dayi wrote: It's no use having the "power" if you can't use it. You attempted genocide but you failed and this is a FACT.



Here’s the proof for exactly the opposite


Makarios interview to Orianna Falacci (You can search for it at the Cyprus conflict web site)

O.F.: So you too were expecting the coup.

M.: No. I never thought they'd be so stupid as to order a coup against me. In fact, to me it seemed impossible that they wouldn't consider its consequences. I mean Turkish intervention. At the most I thought they might do such a thing by making a deal with Turkey, that is, authorizing Turkey to intervene so that Greece could then respond, to be followed by partition and double enosis. I went on thinking so even after the coup, when I got to London. It took some time for me to realize that Ioannides had simply acted out of a lack of intelligence. And yet I knew him. In 1963 and 1964 he had been in Cyprus as an officer of the National Guard, and one fill day he came to see me, accompanied by Sampson, in order to Aexplain to me secretly a plan that would settle everything.@ He had bowed to me, he had kissed my hand most respectfully, then: "Beatitude, here's the plan. To attack the Turkish Cypriots suddenly, everywhere on the island. To eliminate them one and all. Stop." I was flabbergasted. I told him I couldn't agree with him, that I couldn't even conceive the idea of killing so many innocent people. He kissed my hand again and went away in a huff. I tell you, he's a criminal.

wrote: Stop your lies man, have you no shame. It was all for ENOSIS and the whole bloody world knows all about it.


You are the one who is constantly lieing. Some of the paramilitary groups were indeed for Enosis. Some were fighting your TMTs just to avert your plans for TAKSIM. Your TMT groups had also dual objective. Some were just defending. Some had taksim as the one and only purpose.

wrote: You can lie as much as you want about it but which ever way you look at it it all points to "osmosis" and "assimilation" into a Greek Cypriot society which you GCs prove daily.


Is this what the 8th July agreement says? If yes then tell Talat to show it to us. If not then stop lieing.

wrote: The only thing you "object" to is anyone flying the Turkish flag while at the same time having no objections to GCs flying the Greek flag in this forum or doing nothing to have them removed also?


I aleady said I object it, and so far the only one who flies the Greek flag as I remember is oranos who is a mainland Greek. I don’t see anyone of the frequent posters flying the Greek or Turkish flag. You are the ONLY exception.

wrote: If flags were not so "important" for your self image then why do you insist that I fly the "Cypriot flag", hmmmmm?


Show me where I said you should fly the Cypriot flag. The only thing I said is your avatar has the Turkish flag and since you proved you are a cypriot you shouldn’t have that flag as your avatar. This does not mean you have to use the cypriot flag. It means you should use something else. Hundreds of pictures on the internet you can use….
Here's an example

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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The same people that kept quite while TCs were discriminated and persecuted against, they kept quite for 11 years, these so called compatriots.


They waited to see who would come out on top and "follow the mooooooney". :wink: :wink: :wink:


Eric some people can only swear their way our of debate which is the lowest form of human being, add to this being unprovoked and you can see what we are dealing with when TCs think about uniting with GCs...frightening stuff, this attitude can be levied at our children in a united Cyprus and there's nothing you can do about it, because any complaints would fall on deaf GC ears as it would be a GC state run by GCs for GCs.


That's why TCs will never agree to unite with these people VP and stay in the KKTC where they feel safe and can sleep in peace and they know that they will be safe as long as the Turkish Army is there to protect them from such people.

Have you noticed though how desperately kikapu is trying to score brownie points with his GC masters?

Just in case you or anyone out there missed it, this is his feeble attempt to please his pay masters. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

kikapu wrote:Eric Dayi, take a little friendly advice and don't try to go Head to Head with me on "Battle of the Wits" because I will be arrested for inflicting "Cruel and unusual Punishment" on you for having had a "Battle of the Wits with an Unarmed Person", such as yourself.


And of course let's not also forget his desperation in editing my posts to again please his pay masters.

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Postby Eric dayi » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:48 pm

miltiades wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Image


I always wondered what you looked like Eric Dayi, now I know........so thanks. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nice try kikapu but you ain't getting away as easy as that. That is you selling your arse to the GCs as prostitution it's the best thing you know all about.


Eric Dayi, take a little friendly advice and don't try to go Head to Head with me on "Battle of the Wits" because I will be arrested for inflicting "Cruel and unusual Punishment" on you for having had a "Battle of the Wits with an Unarmed Person", such as yourself.

Come on Kik , you wouldn't battle with a Clown surely !


No miltiades, that's why he's living you out of this "battle". :wink: :wink: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The same people that kept quite while TCs were discriminated and persecuted against, they kept quite for 11 years, these so called compatriots.


They waited to see who would come out on top and "follow the mooooooney". :wink: :wink: :wink:


Eric some people can only swear their way our of debate which is the lowest form of human being, add to this being unprovoked and you can see what we are dealing with when TCs think about uniting with GCs...frightening stuff, this attitude can be levied at our children in a united Cyprus and there's nothing you can do about it, because any complaints would fall on deaf GC ears as it would be a GC state run by GCs for GCs.


ok...lesson 1
Only with the lowest form of scum....btw lowest form of scum or any scum indeed has no boundaries to race...could be a martian for all I care, but scum, you, is scum of the lowest denominator...

Well I hope you learned something out of this girl

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Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:16 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Image


I always wondered what you looked like Eric Dayi, now I know........so thanks. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nice try kikapu but you ain't getting away as easy as that. That is you selling your arse to the GCs as prostitution it's the best thing you know all about.


Eric Dayi, take a little friendly advice and don't try to go Head to Head with me on "Battle of the Wits" because I will be arrested for inflicting "Cruel and unusual Punishment" on you for having had a "Battle of the Wits with an Unarmed Person", such as yourself.


Hey kiks, I wouldn't dare to go "head to head"


You learned really fast, I'm impressed.


Not a very good try this time kiks seeing that my original post is still there and people can see you just "edited" it to suit your stupidity. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

But just on case I'll post it again so that people do not have to scroll up and see it. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:


Hey kiks, I wouldn't dare to go "head to head" with anyone who sells his arse and sells out his own people. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink::wink: :wink:


Anyway, like I said above, I wouldn't dare to go "head to head" with anyone who sells his arse and sells out his own people but I would make a suggestion to this person kikapu to farther his dancing skills so that his GC masters may throw a few more silver coins his way. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Kiks, who'se hand is that up your backside?
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There is a such a thing as "overkill" Eric Dayi, to try and force a humour or a wit on others, even if you had the skills to do so, which you lack.

Timing is everything in Comedy, and I'm afraid I've already knocked your "clock off", so give it a rest now and don't bore the readers of this forum with your dribble.

Oh by the way Eric Dayi, all Cypriots are my people, including you and all the other Partitionist, unfortunately, but one can only choose their neighbours and not their "family".

So, what that means Eric Dayi, is that I'm stuck with you fools. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:21 pm

I would really be interested to hear from VP and his/her minions how on earth can they be so sure that GCs are only interested in assimilating the TCs by Osmosis or another way??? If a community live in a democratic country,where they are free to speak their mother tongue,where they can practise their religion,have freedom of association,can form their own political party and compete for votes on an equal footing,how can such a community be absorbed in another,unless they want to do so themselves???

Come on people...Lets stop this never ending repetition of the stock phrases and old pasee propaganda slogans..Lets discuss this matter in a civilised way,based on facts...I am open to all ideas,as long as they are based on reality...Why should in this day and age,in the middle of the prosperous EU community,where Cyprus is becoming more and more multicultural,and less and less Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot,should any one community be preoccupied with archaic ideas like assimilating others by Osmosis,whatever that means?????? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:23 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Here's an example

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Pyro, why don't you allow Eric Dayi to use his own image as his Avatar.

Here it is.

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That is ONE "Butt Naked" Eric Dayi.!!

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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:38 pm

Now let me think...... hmmm.... Dayi needs a good avatar.... hmmm.... between the Turkish flag and the spunking monkey what would he choose??.... hmmm......... hmmm..... I think Dayi needs to have more choices.

Sorry guys I just tried to find something for Dayi and got stuck to this beautiful website, It seems I will hung in here for a while. But why are those women fly away from my sight all the time... :lol:

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Postby zan » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:41 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:I would really be interested to hear from VP and his/her minions how on earth can they be so sure that GCs are only interested in assimilating the TCs by Osmosis or another way??? If a community live in a democratic country,where they are free to speak their mother tongue,where they can practise their religion,have freedom of association,can form their own political party and compete for votes on an equal footing,how can such a community be absorbed in another,unless they want to do so themselves???

Come on people...Lets stop this never ending repetition of the stock phrases and old pasee propaganda slogans..Lets discuss this matter in a civilised way,based on facts...I am open to all ideas,as long as they are based on reality...Why should in this day and age,in the middle of the prosperous EU community,where Cyprus is becoming more and more multicultural,and less and less Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot,should any one community be preoccupied with archaic ideas like assimilating others by Osmosis,whatever that means?????? :roll: :roll: :roll:



I will tell you what that means Bir.....It means that you will be explaining to everyone that you meet that you are in fact not Greek but a Turkish Cypriot. We will be waiting for handouts to open Turkish schools and amenities from a Greek based government. We will have areas dedicated to us but they will be known as Turkish enclaves where slums will develop because it will take decades for the GCs to ever come to terms with us as partners again. The hill will become a mountain to climb and the courts will be full of applications for all types of human rights struggles. Many will leave out of the ones that are left after the GCs decide who is and isn't a proper Cypriot. We will become even less than we are now and even more of a minority in Greek terms.

Why the hell would we want to take ourselves out of a position of power and start all over again. We have tasted the freedom of that power and the right to determine our own future so why the hell would we do that to ourselves. How old are you....Give away all your possessions and start again.....See how that feels. I am a Turkish Cypriot from the TRNC/KKTC...OR...I am a full partner in the "Cyprus Republic" either or will do and nothing else.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:01 pm

Zan, Birkibrisli did not ask you what osmosis or assimilation means but HOW it will would possibly occur.


And btw even the description you gave is not that of an assimilation. If I were to assimilate the Tcs I would make sure they are "ONE OF US"!!! In all respects including well being, economic, social status etc. The things you said are practices of oppression with the aim of extinction! Not assimilation.

And by the way assimilation as long as it is limited to social, economic, legal rights etc is a good thing. It means all people are of the same status. What we should never include in assimilation is language, education, culture, and religion. Because that would mean extinction of one community;s identity.
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